Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #4 *M. Bridger guilty*

[PADDYWHACK]

For Anglesey: 14/10/12

First Light: 7:07am - Sunrise: 7:42am
Sunset: 6:25pm - Last Light 7:00pm

Is sunset not the same for the whole of England, Scotland and Wales?

 

[PADDYWHACK]

For Anglesey: 14/10/12

First Light: 7:07am - Sunrise: 7:42am
Sunset: 6:25pm - Last Light 7:00pm

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=1336

 

[Clutchbag]

Is sunset not the same for the whole of England, Scotland and Wales?

Its earlier on the east and later on the west of the British Isles. Full variance is about 40 minutes or so.

http://www.schoolsobservatory.org.uk/astro/esm/sunrs_uk

 

[Sarah]

Official sunset is 18:21 for me tonight, so I'll be looking to see how long after that it actually gets dark and at what time the street lights come on.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

Is sunset not the same for the whole of England, Scotland and Wales?

Depends where you are, not exactly the same. It is affected by latitude and longitude.

 

[Amber34]

I don't know how to do that, but I just took a screenshot of the 3rd set of garages on that small estate. What is the car on the left?

Way back at the start of this case, someone managed to zoom into that photo of the landrover parked at the garages and I believe they got a partial plate by going in at a sideways angle.

It was concluded it is parked directly behind the Jones's property.

 

[Sarah]

My own car sits directly under a street lamp and is the same colour as MB's. I want to know if the colour can appear light grey in the darkness, or under street lamp. I have never bothered to look before.

What colour streetlamps do you have?
I'd guess by looking at the images that those near the garages are the standard orange ones used on residential estates.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

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[veggiefan]

A strange story in the Mirror today:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/april-jones-accused-mark-bridger-1378558

The father of the man charged with the murder of April Jones had responsibility for protecting the Queen.

It is thought the accused would have met members of the royal family while his dad was based at Windsor Castle.

 

[jigzy]

For Anglesey: 14/10/12

First Light: 7:07am - Sunrise: 7:42am
Sunset: 6:25pm - Last Light 7:00pm

I live south of Machynlleth and it was dark here on Tuesday (day after abduction) at 7.15, so around 7 pm it would have been quite dusky.

We have read that the family said that A was allowed to play for an extra 10 minutes as a "treat". I can think of better 'treats' for 5 year old than being allowed to play near those unfriendly-looking garages at dusk for sure.

Jmo

 

[LegallyBrunette]

My own car sits directly under a street lamp and is the same colour as MB's. I want to know if the colour can appear light grey in the darkness, or under street lamp. I have never bothered to look before.

DS Bevan said that in the briefing where he showed photo of the Land Rover- that the time of day may have affected perception of the vehicle colour. Will be interesting to hear your feedback.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...etails-of-abduction-suspect-Mark-Bridger.html

 

[Sarah]

Left hand drive range rover. Wipers the same as for right hand drive?
http://imganuncios.mitula.net/land_...uto_onyxleft_hand_drive_96444719692215504.jpg

BBM

No - they're the opposite way around to the ones in the garage picture and to the ones on our RH drive cars.

The resting position in that picture is with them to the left (as you're looking at the car) while the car in front of the garage has them resting to the right.
I do think that this is the standard. Wipers rest in front of the passenger side and swoosh upwards toward the driver's side - so LH and RH drive cars have them reversed.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

I live south of Machynlleth and it was dark here on Tuesday (day after abduction) at 7.15, so around 7 pm it would have been quite dusky.

We have read that the family said that A was allowed to play for an extra 10 minutes as a "treat". I can think of better 'treats' for 5 year old than being allowed to play near those unfriendly-looking garages at dusk for sure.

Jmo

Current weather forecasts for the area sound like it's pretty nippy, I know here even though it's spring once the sun sets it gets chilly.
Not having a go at the parents at all, but I get what you're saying.

 

[Clutchbag]

:

Way back at the start of this case, someone managed to zoom into that photo of the landrover parked at the garages and I believe they got a partial plate by going in at a sideways angle.

It was concluded it is parked directly behind the Jones's property.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8419384&highlight=Plate#post8419384

See post 172 here

 

[LegallyBrunette]

A strange story in the Mirror today:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/april-jones-accused-mark-bridger-1378558

The father of the man charged with the murder of April Jones had responsibility for protecting the Queen.

It is thought the accused would have met members of the royal family while his dad was based at Windsor Castle.

OMG that poor family.

 

[KING Charles]

OK a quick Google reveals that there are indeed different wiper motors with opposite directions for LH and RH vehicles - can't find anything that explicitly backs up what I'd thought though.

The closest is in this discussion here (post #13)

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/right-hand-drive-rhd-thread-1413238/#post14187477



I'd never presume to know better than anyone else on here.

It would be interesting if others with LH drive vehicles could check out the direction of their wipers though.
Both of our RH drive cars have the same orientation as the one in the picture of the garages.

Hi Sarah,
I live in United Arab Emirates and all the cars here are left hand drives. My car and all the ones I see on the road have the windscreen wipers swiping from right to left.

 

[Praxis]

Do parent/teacher meetings go on until 7pm? Seems really late for a local junior school to be open until that hour.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8419384&highlight=Plate#post8419384

See post 172 here

Cheers, that is almost certainly RH drive, in the side shot you can see steering wheel and where the dash sort of rises to accomodate speedo etc.

 

[LegallyBrunette]

Do parent/teacher meetings go on until 7pm? Seems really late for a local junior school to be open until that hour.

Some have them after hours to accomodate working parents, but conflicting reports said that Mr and Mrs J left meeting by 3.30pm.

 

[LittleMissContrary]

This list is not comprehensive. I am still working on compiling and entering data into the database I am working on for the area.

If you click on the link below, it will open up a google map. I have customized the map with numbered icons, each icon representing a site of attempted abductions. Click on each numbered icon to read details about the particular event(s)

http://goo.gl/maps/D9zAS


Although this is a work in progress, I have certainly noticed some patterns. Not a huge surprise, white transit vans are the vehicle most often used in the abduction attempts.

The other pattern I am starting to see, is groups of 2-3 men, making multiple attempts in a general area, over the course of a few days. I was also interested to note that the men were often described as "tanned".

I made individual entries for these incidents in the original database but lumped them together for simplicity on the map.