Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #6 *M. Bridger guilty*

[PADDYWHACK]

On another closed thread, I asked about the registration plate being covered. Someone said it was duct tape to prevent engine from flooding. At the risk of sounding random, how long does duct tape last to prevent such things, do you do it daily, weekly etc and also, does duct tape have a smell like chemicals from the glue etc Thank you

 

[opalsqueak63]

Thanks, I got that now, interesting that it was update Sat 29th Sept 19:09. I know nothing much about weapons, is that a military style automatic ?

Yes it is.

Checked with family member in the Royal Artillery.

It is not used by the British armed forces.

There is nowhere in the UK where you would be allowed to own, pose with or fire a weapon like this- nowhere.

33mm possibly higher

Automatic weapon , sights.

Deadly. Illegal in the UK, which means pic must have been taken abroad? Used for killing large numbers of people quickly, or for big game hunting.

Can't see the tattoo on his arm. Would know more about the weapon if the picture was clearer, but don't know how to do that.

Possibly a replica? But not outdoors in the UK - you would have to be mad.

Can't believe anyone living in the UK in their right mind would put that pic on facebook. I remember thinking that when I first looked at his page. He looks so much older in that pic than any of the others. Has he been to USA or South Africa recently, for eg, where he might have been able to legally pose with or use that weapon? How could he if he is bankrupt?

 

[Clutchbag]

Unfortunately people lie on the stand, under oath, ALL the time. Not saying that is the case here but just wanted to comment on that fact.

no one should lie under oath in a murder trial unless they have something to hide imo, its inexcusable

 

[PADDYWHACK]

On another closed thread, I asked about the registration plate being covered. Someone said it was duct tape to prevent engine from flooding. At the risk of sounding random, how long does duct tape last to prevent such things, do you do it daily, weekly etc and also, does duct tape have a smell like chemicals from the glue etc Thank you

This is really important, has anyone got any duct tape so they can give it a sniff and see if it smells of glue, or chemicals. Thank you

 

[Clutchbag]

On another closed thread, I asked about the registration plate being covered. Someone said it was duct tape to prevent engine from flooding. At the risk of sounding random, how long does duct tape last to prevent such things, do you do it daily, weekly etc and also, does duct tape have a smell like chemicals from the glue etc Thank you

No one said it was duct tape, but plastic sheeting. Duct tape is tape, like brown tape, its a ROLL not a humungous sheet. no idea if he took the car like that to the garage, whether the garage put it on for some reason, cant imagine the police would, they would just pixilate the plate out but why would they when they released the plate same time as car photo which is what they normally do

Eta and why would MB cover his plate up OR the garage, so I dont think the cover is to cover the plate

 

[TulipaNoir]

Yes it is.

Checked with family member in the Royal Artillery.

It is not used by the British armed forces.

There is nowhere in the UK where you would be allowed to own, pose with or fire a weapon like this- nowhere.

33mm possibly higher

Automatic weapon , sights.

Deadly. Illegal in the UK, which means pic must have been taken abroad? Used for killing large numbers of people quickly, or for big game hunting.

Can't see the tattoo on his arm. Would know more about the weapon if the picture was clearer, but don't know how to do that.

Possibly a replica? But not outdoors in the UK - you would have to be mad.

Can't believe anyone living in the UK in their right mind would put that pic on facebook. I remember thinking that when I first looked at his page. He looks so much older in that pic than any of the others. Has he been to USA or South Africa recently, for eg, where he might have been able to legally pose with or use that weapon? How could he if he is bankrupt?

Thank you for that information.


Are we sure it's him in that picture? Could he have posted a pic of someone else? The man in the picture looks much balder than MB?

 

[nursebeeme]

This is really important, has anyone got any duct tape so they can give it a sniff and see if it smells of glue, or chemicals. Thank you

mine doesn't stink... (I just sniffed it so if I pass out now you have to come and pick me up off the floor paddy!)

has slight "glueish smell" but nothing overpowering

 

[opalsqueak63]

Tulipanoir: Are we sure it's him in that picture? Could he have posted a pic of someone else? The man in the picture looks much balder than MB?


It's him and it's his page. I checked it as soon as his name came out in the media - before police announced name. On FB, he said it was him in the picture, but I can't prove it as some info on there is no longer available. If I had thought about it at the time, I would have done screenshots. Doesn't he look a lot older? And I don't remember having seen that tattoo in any other picture.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

No one said it was duct tape, but plastic sheeting. Duct tape is tape, like brown tape, its a ROLL not a humungous sheet. no idea if he took the car like that to the garage, whether the garage put it on for some reason, cant imagine the police would, they would just pixilate the plate out but why would they when they released the plate same time as car photo which is what they normally do

Eta and why would MB cover his plate up OR the garage, so I dont think the cover is to cover the plate

I've googled his car. Silver duct tape (the most common) is holding the brown plastic? sheet on. If MB put that sheet on and if duct tape has a distinctive smell, then the police need to get their dogs onto that smell.

There is evidence that child abduction killers are 6 to 12 times more likely than other murderers to “bind” their victims. In one-fourth of the cases the killers bound their victims, compared to only 2 percent in child murders and 4 percent in all murders.

The much more frequent binding of child abduction murder victims reflects both control and sexual elements. Binding a victim makes control easier, and for uncooperative, strong victims it may be absolutely necessary. For child victims, this control function of binding is less critical. But in these types of murders, with their strong sexual component, the binding (or “bondage”) is more likely to serve more primary sexual functions. These victims are
being bound less to physically control them than to fulfill the sexual fantasies and needs of the killers.

The source of the binding material is known in 87 percent of the cases of binding.

Of those cases in which the source of the binding material is known, 67 percent of the killers brought the binding material with them to the crime
scene.
This has evidentiary implications for matching binding material found in the possession of the killer after he is
identified.

 

[veggiefan]

I'm finding this an interesting read.

http://findthekids.org/pdf/casemanag.pdf

That seems to be an American site and it says that 53% of child abduction murders are committed by a killer who is a stranger to the victim.

In the UK the situation is totally different. According to a study published only last week in the 'British Journal of Social Work', homicidal assailants of children younger than 5 (and AJ was only just 5), are much more likely to come from within the same family.

In the UK, it is about 15 times more likely that if a child is murdered, the killer will have been acquainted with him or her.

 

[TulipaNoir]

Tulipanoir: Are we sure it's him in that picture? Could he have posted a pic of someone else? The man in the picture looks much balder than MB?


It's him and it's his page. I checked it as soon as his name came out in the media - before police announced name. On FB, he said it was him in the picture, but I can't prove it as some info on there is no longer available. If I had thought about it at the time, I would have done screenshots. Doesn't he look a lot older? And I don't remember having seen that tattoo in any other picture.

OK, thanks. Very interesting. Could be totally innocent of course and taken abroad and posted to show off. I've shot an AK47 when I lived in the Middle East :blushing: Had a bruised shoulder for weeks.

Or it could be sending out a message. It's impossible to know.

I'm sure LE have that picture.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

Tulipanoir: Are we sure it's him in that picture? Could he have posted a pic of someone else? The man in the picture looks much balder than MB?


It's him and it's his page. I checked it as soon as his name came out in the media - before police announced name. On FB, he said it was him in the picture, but I can't prove it as some info on there is no longer available. If I had thought about it at the time, I would have done screenshots. Doesn't he look a lot older? And I don't remember having seen that tattoo in any other picture.

Facebook stats have shown that its users are vain and post images that make them look younger, or cooler than they actually are.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

That seems to be an American site and it says that 53% of child abduction murders are committed by a killer who is a stranger to the victim.

In the UK the situation is totally different. According to a study published only last week in the 'British Journal of Social Work', homicidal assailants of children younger than 5 (and AJ was only just 5), are much more likely to come from within the same family.

In the UK, it is about 15 times more likely that if a child is murdered, the killer will have been acquainted with him or her.

Thanks, but I was thinking about body disposal and concealment. If MB is guilty and if that duct tape and plastic was used by him on his vehicle, it could also have been used to wrap up little April.

 

[Cherwell]

Doesn't he look a lot older? And I don't remember having seen that tattoo in any other picture.

I wouldn't have recognised him at all, and would have doubted it was him but for the tattoo. There is a photo somewhere of him on a bridge in Venice which shows the tattoo.

 

[Clutchbag]

I've googled his car. Silver duct tape (the most common) is holding the brown plastic? sheet on. If MB put that sheet on and if duct tape has a distinctive smell, then the police need to get their dogs onto that smell.

if they did they will probably alert to half the houses in the area

http://thezac.com/ducttape/

 

[veggiefan]

I understand that 'Mach' is a small town, but I do wander if the prosecution are going to have a problem putting 'credible' witnesses on the stand as all the ones we know so far are very good friends with April's Family and also friends/ex friends with him??
The Black Bag witness, for instance...

The prosecution is likely to rely on expert witnesses who can testify to the reliability of the forensic evidence produced.

They are likely to call on the testimony of the 7-year old who apparently witnessed the abduction, but otherwise they are likely to restrict themselves to anyone who can reliably testify that MB was living at the house in Ceinws, the garage owner who may have booked his vehicle in on the Tuesday, and so forth.

I think there is no chance whatsoever of the Black Bag ladies, or anyone else with unveriable "sightings" being called to give evidence, as their testimony would more than likely be totally discredited by a good defence barrister.

 

[opalsqueak63]

I wouldn't have recognised him at all, and would have doubted it was him but for the tattoo. There is a photo somewhere of him on a bridge in Venice which shows the tattoo.

Yes! Thank you

 

[PADDYWHACK]

I wouldn't have recognised him at all, and would have doubted it was him but for the tattoo. There is a photo somewhere of him on a bridge in Venice which shows the tattoo.

When I saw that, I immediately thought it must be where he got the idea to call his business VERONA.

 

[Clutchbag]

I wouldn't have recognised him at all, and would have doubted it was him but for the tattoo. There is a photo somewhere of him on a bridge in Venice which shows the tattoo.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mber-missing-year-old-silent-walk-church.html

Scroll down, seems very similar by position and size and pattern

 

[Adorabella]

Please can I just confirm, that apart from a 7 year old girl, NO ONE AT ALL actually saw April ever get into ANY car whether dark, white or with pink spots?