UK - Arthur Labinjo Hughes, 6, killed, dad & friend arrested, June 2020 #2

[Dotta]

I don’t know why I think this, but I get the impression ET and her family are deemed as “rough”. I think between her conduct on the stand, SH in general and the step father being politely told to wind his neck in, is how I came to that impression? TH family seem the polar opposite. Again pure speculation on my part.

And what happened to the previous step dad who sexually abused her?
Did he land in prison?

 

[ScottishSam]

And what happened to the previous step dad who sexually abused her?
Did he land in prison?

I don't remember if they mentioned what happened to him

 

[ChloLo]

The actions of the social worker and police are beyond belief.

 

[Noseyjosie]

I don't remember if they mentioned what happened to him

If it did indeed happen....

 

[ScottishSam]

The actions of the social worker and police are beyond belief.

I can't understand why the SW didn't arrange a follow up visit? And the police man who said he'd call Arthur's uncle back, and then didn't bother. I think the police said they thought the SW were handling it. He couldn't even remember the pic

 

[Tinksx]

I can't understand why the SW didn't arrange a follow up visit? And the police man who said he'd call Arthur's uncle back, and then didn't bother. I think the police said they thought the SW were handling it. He couldn't even remember the pic

There’s only a follow up if a case is opened or needs further exploration. According to the SW and her partner, no evidence of abuse, clean and tidy house, children playing happily, parents open to signposting. Job done. Boxes ticked. NFA.

 

[julahoop]

surely the fact that this all happened in the first lockdown is the reason for the woeful social work response and the isolation of these people from their extended families. It was lockdown. Nobody knew wtf was going on. and not to excuse ET or TH in anyway, but isolation breeds stress and child abuse, especially in new relationships, especially in families of vulnerable mentally ill adults with very young children. Lockdown has to take some of the blame here.

 

[ScottishSam]

There’s only a follow up if a case is opened or needs further exploration. According to the SW and her partner, no evidence of abuse, clean and tidy house, children playing happily, parents open to signposting. Job done. Boxes ticked. NFA.

Case closed. Escalation of abuse. What a shame for Arthur

 

[Tinksx]

surely the fact that this all happened in the first lockdown is the reason for the woeful social work response and the isolation of these people from their extended families. It was lockdown. Nobody knew wtf was going on. and not to excuse ET or TH in anyway, but isolation breeds stress and child abuse, especially in new relationships, especially in families of vulnerable mentally ill adults with very young children. Lockdown has to take some of the blame here.

I might agree if Arthur’s assessment was carried out over the phone, but it wasn’t. Lockdown didn’t stop this SW visiting in person and seeing Arthur for herself.

 

[Dotta]

There’s only a follow up if a case is opened or needs further exploration. According to the SW and her partner, no evidence of abuse, clean and tidy house, children playing happily, parents open to signposting. Job done. Boxes ticked. NFA.

Can you tell me what "signposting" is?

 

[Tinksx]

Can you tell me what "signposting" is?

Basically directed to services to access for help or support.

 

[Tinksx]

Case closed. Escalation of abuse. What a shame for Arthur

In a nutshell. And again, not uncommon unfortunately

 

[ScottishSam]

surely the fact that this all happened in the first lockdown is the reason for the woeful social work response and the isolation of these people from their extended families. It was lockdown. Nobody knew wtf was going on. and not to excuse ET or TH in anyway, but isolation breeds stress and child abuse, especially in new relationships, especially in families of vulnerable mentally ill adults with very young children. Lockdown has to take some of the blame here.

I worked through lockdown. I've never seen so many police walking the streets.
At first during lockdown, there was no communication between my school and my kids. Things improved as they brought in online learning. But they didn't introduce what were visual checks of kids until much later on.
Charities were saying this was a disaster for vulnerable people. Yes, the stress certainly added to things. Concerns should have been treated far more seriously than this case. There's obviously been examples of good, cohesive multi agency working which we'll never hear about.
I just get the feeling all concerns about Arthur weren't treated seriously by any agency.

 

[Mellowmelly]

also, he was caught out lying about the SS call, he never actually made it, nor did her mother but he insisted he did, then that ET’s mom did and then said he can’t remember….very similar to what ET has being doing on the stand

I thought it didn't make sense that he'd call ss about Arthur's treatment by them but then tell them not to bring Arthur back to their house again, wouldn't he have wanted to make sure Arthur was OK? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it.

 

[ScottishSam]

I thought it didn't make sense that he'd call ss about Arthur's treatment by them but then tell them not to bring Arthur back to their house again, wouldn't he have wanted to make sure Arthur was OK? The apple doesn't fall far from the tree does it.

Indeed it doesn't! I'll have a scroll through BM later. I can't believe I missed that bit. Why would they lie about that? Didn't they realise the call would be logged?!!

 

[Mellowmelly]

So...
She practically accused the brother of flirting with her.

She knows which buttons to press, I grant her that.

The triangulation had begun.

 

[Mellowmelly]

Indeed it doesn't! I'll have a scroll through BM later. I can't believe I missed that bit. Why would they lie about that? Didn't they realise the call would be logged?!!

Probably to make themselves look less complicit in Arthur's abuse, how bad would it look to people to know that they knew Arthur was being abused and did nothing ? Most likely aswell, to make TH look like the instigator and ET as the scared abused girlfriend.

 

[ScottishSam]

Probably to make themselves look less complicit in Arthur's abuse, how bad would it look to people to know that they knew Arthur was being abused and did nothing ? Most likely aswell, to make TH look like the instigator and ET as the scared abused girlfriend.

They had to know. They had to see his weight loss, seeing him singled out. Did they all just drink tea/ coffee and have a laugh while he was left staring at the wall? It's amazing how people can switch off to these things. Poor abused ET, so scared of TH that she had ample opportunity to get help for Arthur. And didn't.

 

[Carroll520]

Another weird thing about her parents was the fact she sent her Mum a text to say that Arthur got slapped badly today and put an xx at the end of it. So strange!! U would be putting a sad face if u were in anyway normal not xx. Cold people. Wonder what her brother and sister are like

 

[Carroll520]

I don't remember if they mentioned what happened to him

Yeah did she tell people it happened. Could be made up to give her an excuse