GUILTY UK - Blake, 14 & Tristan Barrass, 13, dead, 4 hospitalized, Sheffield, May 2019 *Arrests*

[Bootlace15]

If she has done it, I hope she'll just plead guilty and not put everyone through a trial. Misread that last post as saying she'd admitted it! It's just so horrible. Poor boys.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

If she has done it, I hope she'll just plead guilty and not put everyone through a trial. Misread that last post as saying she'd admitted it! It's just so horrible. Poor boys.

I would hope that too but have a feeling she won't want to take responsibility.

 

[Rosegold68]

i have some new thoughts on this since seeing the boys.

i hope i'm wrong.

 

[Mellowmelly]

Or.. It was long and drawn out on purpose to cause suffering. Or maybe a substance was given before further acts took place because the 1st thing it didn't work. All quite hideous to contemplate.

It is, makes me so sad to think of someone deliberately causing their children harm.

 

[Alyce]

I do not believe it was the boys who messaged their friends, telling them they wouldn't be coming to school. I think it was the parent/s. What do you all think ?

Very possible.
They give their school pals the sickness excuse for Friday - we then had the week end and this week was Bank Holiday plus half term. So would give SB and BM plenty of time before any of the children would be missed by friends and school.

 

[Mellowmelly]

i have some new thoughts on this since seeing the boys.

i hope i'm wrong.

Can you share them ?

 

[mrazda71]

i have some new thoughts on this since seeing the boys.

i hope i'm wrong.

Care to share those thoughts?

 

[Mercsw]

I do not believe it was the boys who messaged their friends, telling them they wouldn't be coming to school. I think it was the parent/s. What do you all think ?

That would show premeditated planning. The alerting to the police is rumoured to be more clear cut but that will come out in the trial. I’m not speculating or referencing anything bar the bbc on this case. Too upsetting and too many shocking twists and actions out there

 

[Sarahlou]

She tried to kill two of her other kids too. It wasn't just those two boys targeted. I reckon the youngest two were the biological children of the charged man, personally. But it's all speculation.

 

[Bootlace15]

She tried to kill two of her other kids too. It wasn't just those two boys targeted. I reckon the youngest two were the biological children of the charged man, personally. But it's all speculation.

That seems the most likely reason. The whole thing is so messed up. Wonder how long until they release more info officially. The speculation is hopefully worse than the reality, fingers crossed

 

[Plod]

That seems the most likely reason. The whole thing is so messed up. Wonder how long until they release more info officially. The speculation is hopefully worse than the reality, fingers crossed

From what I gather, the whole thing is probably pre meditated, IMHO. Or a situation that has got out of hand.?

 

[Deleted member 238128]

regarding emerging sexuality. would those parents be accepting of that considering their own relationship appears to be far from the norm. is their own, alleged relationship being copied somehow? just a feeling i get, all my own opinion. i'm a mum or 3 boys, all early to mid teens, i see those 2 boys and think why? but then with the sen stuff i've seen alluded to, and then seeing/hearing one on videos just feel theres something there. maybe the mother is so deluded she tried to cure him/them.....i just don't know, its just my thoughts. i was reluctant to share to be honest

I understand what is is you are trying to say but can you link to the video that gave you this idea?

 

[Armchair_Defective]

I am reminded a bit of the US case with the Turpin family. The parents seemed to reluctant to admit they had done anything wrong at first, they actually thought some of the rules they imposed were logical in the isolated setting of that house.
The parents in this case are not religious but I wonder if a similar, extremely strict regime happened at home for a while, which most people and the law would see as abuse.

 

[Plod]

I am reminded a bit of the US case with the Turpin family. The parents seemed to reluctant to admit they had done anything wrong at first, they actually thought some of the rules they imposed were logical in the isolated setting of that house.
The parents in this case are not religious but I wonder if a similar, extremely strict regime happened at home for a while, which most people and the law would see as abuse.

Or just they’re evil, low i q with learning disabilities and problem substance misuse which has resulted in the abuse of the children.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Or just they’re evil, low i q with learning disabilities and problem substance misuse which has resulted in the abuse of the children.

Could be, or a combination of things. I'm not saying what they did is in any way intelligent just because they think there may be logic behind it. Abusive people convince themselves what they are doing is right for whatever reason.

 

[Alyce]

A serious case review is to be held into the deaths of two boys in Sheffield, the city council has confirmed.
The review's findings will be made public once it has concluded


Review to be held into boys' deaths


As expected .... and finally, they have got the right age for BM

 

[Mellowmelly]

A serious case review is to be held into the deaths of two boys in Sheffield, the city council has confirmed.
The review's findings will be made public once it has concluded


Review to be held into boys' deaths


As expected .... and finally, they have got the right age for BM

So it's highly likely the children were already known to children's services then.

 

[Sarahlou]

So it's highly likely the children were already known to children's services then.

I'd have been very shocked if they weren't!

 

[Mellowmelly]

I'd have been very shocked if they weren't!

That just makes it a whole lot worse, if that's the case. I think someone said further back in this thread that this case is going to be like the baby p case and it looks that way.

 

[Plod]

That just makes it a whole lot worse, if that's the case. I think someone said further back in this thread that this case is going to be like the baby p case and it looks that way.

Unfortunately many cases like this do slip through the net. Social services are stretched everywhere. I’m reminded of that young girl whose death was ruled as suicide, but its clear that the stepfather was abusive. She was failed in a lot of ways. And I think this will be similar.