GUILTY UK - Brianna Ghey, 16, murdered in Culcheth Linear Park, Feb 2023 *2 teenagers charged*

[Alyce]

10:58Andrew Bardsley

Family would 'support lifting of the restriction', court told​

The judge asks Mr Hurst of PA about his views. He says he agrees with the judge's comments about potentially raising restrictions on the day of sentencing.
Prosecutor Deanna Heer KC says she consulted Brianna's family about whether reporting restrictions should be lifted.
"They would support the lifting of the restriction," she says. Mrs Heer said the family recognises they are 'not the only views'.
She says they are 'broadly in favour', but understand the 'overall picture'. The judge says she saw the family's comments outside court yesterday and describes them as 'hugely impressive'.
She says the family's views are 'something that I have take into consideration'.

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as judge decided on naming killers

The two teenagers were found guilty on Wednesday

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Honeybirdette]

Bit disappointing they are choosing to wait until sentencing. Not sure it really makes any sense as the families have already had plenty of time to “prepare” for it.

 

[Alyce]

11:11Ellen Kirwin

BBC asks for 999 call to be released​

The court is currently dealing with an application by the BBC for the audio recording of the 999 call to be released to the media.

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as Girl X gives evidence

The 16-year-old transgender schoolgirl was fatally stabbed in a park and two teenagers are charged with her murder

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

IMO
If somebody decides to commit a heinous crime,
he or she should be prepared for ALL consequences.

JMO

 

[Alyce]

Bit disappointing they are choosing to wait until sentencing. Not sure it really makes any sense as the families have already had plenty of time to “prepare” for it.

I agree Honey.
Plus, the names being released now could work well, both for the two murderers' and for their families.

It's almost Christmas - they will hit the headlines for a day at most - people have other priorities.

Being released at sentencing time - January perhaps ? - will probably make the interest and articles last much longer.

 

[Skigh]

Bit disappointing they are choosing to wait until sentencing. Not sure it really makes any sense as the families have already had plenty of time to “prepare” for it.

I think that everyone local will know ,but I suppose it steps up a level when it becomes headline news in the media and various people who knew the pair start telling their stories about them.

 

[Detective_Popcorn]

IMO
If somebody decides to commit heinous crime,
he or she should be prepared for ALL consequences.

JMO

Agreed Dotta, but there are also consequences that will be faced by innocent parties - families, parents etc. There will be hate mail, all sorts of stories in the press etc, who knows how they will be treated in the street. They may wish to move away from the area or change their names etc.

Edited to add: Not saying they shouldn't be named, just whether a delay until sentencing is a balanced outcome. Justice Yip mentioned today that Girl X's family have already received death threats.

These two will be national figures of notoriety for the rest of their lives a la Thompson Venables. That is not going to change.

 

[Skigh]

Agreed Dotta, but there are also consequences that will be faced by innocent parties - families, parents etc. There will be hate mail, all sorts of stories in the press etc. They may wish to move away from the area or change their names etc.

I feel desperately sorry for all of their families caught up in this. Grandparents,aunts ,uncles siblings will all probably suffer repercussions.

 

[Sarahlou]

Agreed Dotta, but there are also consequences that will be faced by innocent parties - families, parents etc. There will be hate mail, all sorts of stories in the press etc, who knows how they will be treated in the street. They may wish to move away from the area or change their names etc.

There is always a chance of this unfortunately.
I obviously really hope the families don't get hate mail etc but I see no reason why they couldn't have been named today.

 

[Detective_Popcorn]

Sentencing fixed for Feb 2nd.

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as Girl X gives evidence

The 16-year-old transgender schoolgirl was fatally stabbed in a park and two teenagers are charged with her murder

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

 

[Moonstrawbs]

I think the anticipation of revealing their identities will make any potential threats worse. It makes sense to get it out the way and whilst there can be many reasons for why they conceal their identity for me it should be released. If you commit a crime like this, you don't deserve any sort of protection in ANY FORM.

 

[Alyce]

very good point



The judge notes that the purpose of section 45 orders is not to protect the families of convicted defendants.

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as judge decided on naming killers

The two teenagers were found guilty on Wednesday

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Alyce]

11:55KEY EVENT

REPORTING RESTRICTIONS WILL BE LIFTED ON FEBRUARY 2​

"I am unable to conclude that there is a good reason to maintain reporting restrictions following the defendants' conviction and sentence," the judge says.
She says that waiting until they are 18 would be an 'unreasonable and unreasonable restriction on the freedom of the press'.
She says she will lift the reporting restrictions, but this is delayed until the sentencing date on February 2.

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as judge decided on naming killers

The two teenagers were found guilty on Wednesday

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Alyce]

11:53KEY EVENT

Defendants 'identified online'​

JY: “I am aware the defendants have been identified online. Where breaches have been brought to the authorities attention, action has been taken.”


The judge says the “vast majority of those contacted” have removed such posts, although “one offender apparently located outside the jurisdiction has not done so”.

JY: “It is inevitable that the defendants’ identities will become widely known at some stage.
“I am unable to conclude there is a good reason to maintain reporting restrictions following conviction and sentence.

There is a strong public interest in full reporting on an exceptional case.


11:55Daniel Windham

Brianna Ghey's killers will be named​

Justice Yip says a “balance can be struck” by lifting the order but imposing a “stay” on this.

“I direct that the order shall be lifted, allowing the reporting of the defendants’ identities.
The effect will be stayed until the time of the sentencing hearing.”

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as Girl X gives evidence

The 16-year-old transgender schoolgirl was fatally stabbed in a park and two teenagers are charged with her murder

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

The Judge said:

"Defendants have vulnerabilities beyond their youth'".

How come these vulnerabilities were NOT addressed before this heinous crime???

In fact, they were diagnosed only AFTER the murder of an innocent victim.


JMO

 

[Skigh]

How Brianna Ghey's murderer went from schoolgirl to fantasist 'witch'

Girl X, as she is known, lured 16-year-old Brianna Ghey to a meeting in a village park under the guise of friendship, only to then stab her to death.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Sources close to the investigation have told the Mail that Girl X had been expelled from several schools, most recently for selling cannabis 'gummies' or sweets to pupils. She was caught after children became ill and teachers were informed.

'She had problems at school but she had never been in trouble with the police, she had no previous convictions and her family life seemed very ordinary,' said a source.

However, they added: 'As well as her fascination with murder and torture, Girl X told friends she was into satanism and the occult. She claimed she identified as a witch. It is baffling why she behaved this way.'

She boasted - falsely - of having killed two other people before, and talked of a desire to take bodily parts as sick souvenirs.

A parent of a child who attended the same school as her said her odd behaviour meant she had few friends.

'It was common knowledge from 2020 that she had a 'kill list' of kids she wanted to kill,' he said.

'My daughter came home and told me about it, but no one took it seriously. Girl X tried to recruit other children to take part in blood rituals with her, everyone just thought she was weird and a fantasist.

'You won't find a single student that liked her.'

Giving evidence, the girl admitted she had self-harmed since the age of 12, which she said was a 'coping mechanism' for dealing with anxiety.

 

[Alyce]

12:01Andrew Bardsley

Exact moment will be made clear in court​

The judge says she will state in court on the day of sentencing the exact moment when the restrictions no longer apply.
Until then, the restrictions remain in force.

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as judge decided on naming killers

The two teenagers were found guilty on Wednesday

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

11:55KEY EVENT

REPORTING RESTRICTIONS WILL BE LIFTED ON FEBRUARY 2​

"I am unable to conclude that there is a good reason to maintain reporting restrictions following the defendants' conviction and sentence," the judge says.
She says that waiting until they are 18 would be an 'unreasonable and unreasonable restriction on the freedom of the press'.
She says she will lift the reporting restrictions, but this is delayed until the sentencing date on February 2.

Brianna Ghey murder trial live updates as judge decided on naming killers

The two teenagers were found guilty on Wednesday

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Good!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Moonstrawbs]

'It was common knowledge from 2020 that she had a 'kill list' of kids she wanted to kill,' he said. 'My daughter came home and told me about it, but no one took it seriously.

Is anyone else bored of hearing this sort of statement time and time again after a murder has taken place? Maybe we should take things like this more seriously, maybe if something seems OFF we should report it to the relevant authorities. JMO.

 

[bbsaz]

I imagine Girl X wants to be named. Obsessed famous killers herself, she will likely want the notoriety