UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, York University, 18 March 2009 - Chef - #1

[skibaboo]

Possible, and yes I had considered that. However I think many of the regulars were a local residents who also parking issues in that area and if the manger set this precedent he would be under pressure from other regulars for the same privilege. As he did not own the pub I would have thought he find himself in trouble with the company that did own it if he allowed locals to permanently use up parking spots.

Hmm, that's a good point. It's awful for parking in and around Heworth. We lived on Heworth Green and there was absolutely nowhere to park the car, we always had trouble, usually having to find a spot streets away, getting glares if we parked out front of someones house or notes under the wipers. It was just ridiculous.

 

[Clio]

From http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/13169

The investigation team still believe Claudia's silver Samsung D900 mobile phone was deliberately turned off by someone at about 12.10pm on Thursday 19 March 2009.

This doesn’t sound like the police have been able to determine for sure that her phone was actually turned off as opposed to running out of battery.

Det Supt Malyn said: "Claudia used her mobile phone intensively so it is unlikely she would allow it to run out of battery. Also, her mobile phone charger was still in her house.

Not following the logic of these two statements at all. If she used her phone intensively and was unlikely to let it run out of battery then surely she would have had her charger with her? She could have had more than one charger. Since they never found her rucksack she might have taken a second charger with her, if she actually left the house voluntarily that is. So why does he makes that second statement?

"From looking at her phone records, we anticipate that she would have wanted to use that phone during her breaks at work and then when walking back home. So for it to naturally run out of battery would not be the norm."

Hmmm. What is he suggesting here? That she would have charged the phone overnight to ensure it wouldn’t run out of battery the next day? If something happened to her on Wed evening, maybe she wasn't in a position to charge her phone?

Det Supt Malyn added: "Further analysis of Claudia's mobile phone, particularly cell site activity, also shows she was in the Acomb area of York in the weeks leading up to her disappearance.

If the phone was active until just after midday on the Thursday, presumably police will have been able to track its approximate location up until the power went off? Obviously the police will know far more about the phone that they are telling the public but I’m just not following his logic above as to why they think the phone was turned off as opposed to running out of battery.

 

[Clio]

We know NYP are reviewing everything with fresh eyes. Perhaps, having publicly named the likely person in the original cctv clip, they have decided to show the 2nd one in a bid to obtain fresh information about this individual 'without prejudice' so to speak. I can't find the original cctv clip on NYPs website anymore.

BIB It's in the original Crimewatch video (broadcast on 2nd June 2009) at 7:08 and 10:45 at the bottom of the page called "Background to the disappearance of Claudia"

http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/13150

 

[Deleted member 102539]

A summary:

http://www.nowmagazine.co.uk/celebr...-where-is-claudia-lawrence-the-three-theories

Her face, staring out from missing persons posters and news reports, is so familiar. Yet her disappearance and suspected murder remains one of the most high-profile unsolved crimes of recent years. Six years ago this month, chef Claudia Lawrence went missing. Detectives believe she was murdered, but with no body found, thousands of hours of police time spent searching for her and lead after lead hitting a brick wall, are they now any closer to solving this mystery? Now investigates...

What do we know?
.......................

Last year, a cigarette butt with male DNA was found in the ashtray of Claudia's car. Tests revealed it was smoked by a left-hander, but the DNA couldn't be matched on the National Crime Database.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Very interesting article. I wonder how they know the smoker was left handed. I am right handed but always smoked with my left (mainly because at the time I was a student and usually writing with my right hand). Wonder if RC was left handed or a smoker? Great that they have that DNA... now to match it!

 

[sar2them1984]

Very interesting article. I wonder how they know the smoker was left handed. I am right handed but always smoked with my left (mainly because at the time I was a student and usually writing with my right hand). Wonder if RC was left handed or a smoker? Great that they have that DNA... now to match it!

Surely if it was RCS it would have been discredited by now

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Surely if it was RCS it would have been discredited by now

You'd think. But he died before the police got chance to speak to him, wonder if they took DNA.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Using techniques not available in 2009, police found the potentially vital DNA profile on a discarded Embassy Regal cigarette butt.

It was found in the ashtray of her Vauxhall Corsa, which was being repaired when she went missing.

They want to find out if the evidence from the car, which had been off the road ‘for a number of weeks’ when she vanished, is linked to a man who has been dubbed the 'left-handed smoker'.

The man was seen standing with a woman at 5.35am on the day Miss Lawrence disappeared, at a point on her route to work and at an appropriate time.

The couple were seen by a passing cyclist and were facing each other several feet apart on Melrosegate Bridge. The man, dressed in a dark hooded top, was smoking from a cigarette held in his left hand.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-years-chefs-disappearance.html#ixzz3Wb86yqv3
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[Deleted member 102539]

Witness: This man in a Co-Op in Tang Hall, York, said he knew Claudia on April 1, 2009. He was never traced



Police also want to trace a man who told shop workers he knew Miss Lawrence or used to work with her, but has never been traced.

The man, identified on CCTV, mentioned the case to staff in Tang Hall, York, on April 1, 2009 - almost two weeks after she disappeared.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-years-chefs-disappearance.html#ixzz3WbBDEr2m

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Police have also released photos of hair dye bottles found in Miss Lawrence's house.

Officers said Miss Lawrence regularly used hair dye to highlight her naturally brown hair and they found a significant quantity of it in the house.

Det Supt Malyn added: ‘There is a possibility that Claudia may also have been colouring another person's hair. If anyone knows about this or it was you, please come forward now.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-years-chefs-disappearance.html#ixzz3WbDI0EQI

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Analysis of Miss Lawrence's phone records indicate she was spending an unusual amount of time ‘socialising’ in the Acomb suburb of York during this period and police believe somebody she was seeing there is ‘yet to come forward.’

Police have previously revealed at the time she went missing she was in a secret ‘long term casual relationship’ with a man who was in a serious relationship himself.

She also went out with a different mystery man 48 hours before she vanished. Miss Lawrence arrived for her early shift looking tired and told a work colleague she had been out until 4 or 5am with a boyfriend.

Miss Lawrence was a prolific user of her mobile phone and further ‘cell site activity’ analysis showed she was often in Acomb during her spare time in the weeks before she disappeared.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-years-chefs-disappearance.html#ixzz3WbE8P0HI
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[sar2them1984]

You'd think. But he died before the police got chance to speak to him, wonder if they took DNA.

If they searched his home/s in a murder enquiry I'm pretty sure they would have taken dna too

 

[HydraMan]

If the phone was active until just after midday on the Thursday, presumably police will have been able to track its approximate location up until the power went off?

The police said at the time that the phone stayed connected to the same mast until it was either ran out of charge or was switched off. Unfortunately this mast covered a large area of the eastern section of York city. This included her home, the university and her entire route to work.

However I think the reduces the likelihood she was abducted using a vehicle as I would expect the abductor to quickly exit the city to continue the attack and/or dispose of the evidence. Obviously this all assumes the mobile stayed with Claudia the whole time - a reasonable assumption IMO as all here usual work effects went missing at the same time.

My feeling is this was a crime that occurred indoors somewhere, possibly in Claudia's home. The only other possibility I could think of was that maybe she was offered a lift to work by someone but on the understanding she would walk to their house first, and the crime took place there.

 

[Robin Hood]

Good points there HydraMan.

Back here for a second-

http://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/13421

Also, in our efforts to locate Claudia's missing blue and grey Karrimor rucksack, we want to hear about a similar rucksack that was spotted near the University of York at about 1pm on Thursday 19 March 2009.

The location was a grassy area off a footpath which runs between Heslington Road and Walmgate Stray, which is just past The Retreat if you were heading towards the university.

"If someone temporarily left the rucksack there and can confirm it is not connected to the investigation, please come forward as soon as possible.''

IF it was Claudia's bag then is it possible somebody found the bag and thought they'd keep the contents and switched the phone off. The timings are similar, switched off phone approx 12.10pm bag sighted 1pm-ish.

 

[ellie b]

The police said at the time that the phone stayed connected to the same mast until it was either ran out of charge or was switched off. Unfortunately this mast covered a large area of the eastern section of York city. This included her home, the university and her entire route to work.

However I think the reduces the likelihood she was abducted using a vehicle as I would expect the abductor to quickly exit the city to continue the attack and/or dispose of the evidence. Obviously this all assumes the mobile stayed with Claudia the whole time - a reasonable assumption IMO as all here usual work effects went missing at the same time.

My feeling is this was a crime that occurred indoors somewhere, possibly in Claudia's home. The only other possibility I could think of was that maybe she was offered a lift to work by someone but on the understanding she would walk to their house first, and the crime took place there.

Or there is the possibility that she was in someone else's house, in the area, the night before (18th). Although you would have thought it probable that there would have been some phone communication that day if she was planning to meet someone that night.

Hmmm....this case is truly baffling, I'm leaning towards something happening to her on her way to work after leaving her house, but lack of phone communication after 8.30pm the night before is causing a little bit of doubt, especially taking into account that she had text a friend (abroad I believe) about that time, who replied at 9.15 pm and she didn't respond...although we don't know if the text she received warranted a response...

 

[Clio]

Or there is the possibility that she was in someone else's house, in the area, the night before (18th). Although you would have thought it probable that there would have been some phone communication that day if she was planning to meet someone that night.

Hmmm....this case is truly baffling, I'm leaning towards something happening to her on her way to work after leaving her house, but lack of phone communication after 8.30pm the night before is causing a little bit of doubt, especially taking into account that she had text a friend (abroad I believe) about that time, who replied at 9.15 pm and she didn't respond...although we don't know if the text she received warranted a response...

Steve revealed Claudia sent him three texts on March 18, the day before she vanished. He had sent her a text at 9.12 pm on March 18, but police do not know if she opened it or not as her mobile phone has never been found.

The first text from Claudia to Steve was on March 18 at 6.08 pm and it said:”How ru nug? (short for nugget) making the most of your spare timex”

The next was at 6.25 and said:”OK,ta. Weather v nice, have looked for a hol there, so expensive, mite have to be September time unless I can get a cheap last minute, bloody kids holx.”

The last was at 6.42 pm. Claudia texted:”Even flights are expensive, there’s cheap hols to other places, just Cyprus expensive! Typical. I’ll keep looking and let you knowX”

Steve said:”The text I send at 9.12 was about her coming out sometime but I cannot remember the detail because the police have all my texts.

“She did not respond to it, which was unusual. Even if she had dosed off on the sofa and then woken up I would have expected her to text me back.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/38...id-not-come-to-Cyprus-4-years-ago-insist-pals

 

[Yozzer]

Steve said:”The text I send at 9.12 was about her coming out sometime but I cannot remember the detail because the police have all my texts.

Seems odd that he can give a detailed account of the texts sent by Claudia but not the last one which he sent. I wonder if it was read by somebody else and caused a jealous reaction?

This is interesting too:

'Steve said: “This is the first time I have heard that she was thinking of staying with Robbie in April 2009. “When she came over she stayed at a hotel overlooking the bay and I thought she would be staying there.”

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/38...id-not-come-to-Cyprus-4-years-ago-insist-pals

 

[ellie b]

"The police said at the time that the phone stayed connected to the same mast until it was either ran out of charge or was switched off. Unfortunately this mast covered a large area of the eastern section of York city. This included her home, the university and her entire route to work."

Would that mast cover the Acomb area of York ?

 

[HydraMan]

"Would that mast cover the Acomb area of York ?

Don't think so - Acomb is on the west side and they were quite specific about her visits to Acomb, so they must have been able to tell the difference.

 

[skibaboo]

Don't think so - Acomb is on the west side and they were quite specific about her visits to Acomb, so they must have been able to tell the difference.

I agree. For non locals, here is a map. Acomb - Heworth (Claudias house)