UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #15

[Ruthbullock]

Is this LE saying this Ruth?

I can't multiquote, but Ss you and so many others have put in many hours of great research and practical information here.

All extremely valuable stuff. I am unable to contribute since I only have imo and that isn't enough !

I do want all the contributors here to understand myself (and many other posters I'm sure) appreciate and consider all the arguments for and against that are put forward.

It doesn't fall on deaf ears I can assure you. Please continue to contribute your theories, ideas and possibilities (within TOS of course).







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It is not LE, however can link to numerous articles about time stamps not being correct as only new, expensive systems sync like a phone to satellite. Two cameras had no time stamps on them so take it with a pinch of salt how accurate they are (I'm not for one minute presuming they are more than a minute or so out, but a minute in this case is quite important). I will keep looking, but in a best case scenario cctv which is date and time stamped is open to being a minute either side out (which gives you three minutes) as when you manually set the time it depends on which millisecond you set it live. When the footage was released it was stated the times could be up to 5 minutes out- will miss all discussions now as I will keep looking aaarrrggghhhh.

 

[Shiressleuth]

We have cctv from grapes, greenwoods and Cornhill and it is common sense these three may have timings not in sync with each other but this would be an easy thing for LE or family to check and synchronise imo. The phone will also have its own time.

 

[Ruthbullock]

Is anyone aware of the Rory Hatfield-Johnson missing person case?

They are very similar. He was on CCTV one minute then gone the next, they look alike and so many points of the case are so similar. There is also a Find Rory page called 'Rory Johnson is missing'. Police have said oh he fell into the River but no one is believing this as he was a happy guy and many searches of the river and banks have drawn a blank. Last CCTV shows him running out of a park onto the main road and then soon after he disappears.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38037760?client=safari


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The bodies normally reappear in the ouse where he disappeared, that is the mystery. Numerous bodies have been recovered since he was thought to have entered the river- all fell in afterwards. Whilst it is not safe, it is difficult to accidently fall in the river- the paths are almost the width of a road, or fenced. Most of the fatalities, and there are several each year, occur from people thinking they can swim over quicker than walking around, or suicide. It is a strange one!

 

[jessie]

Is anyone aware of the Rory Hatfield-Johnson missing person case?

They are very similar. He was on CCTV one minute then gone the next, they look alike and so many points of the case are so similar. There is also a Find Rory page called 'Rory Johnson is missing'. Police have said oh he fell into the River but no one is believing this as he was a happy guy and many searches of the river and banks have drawn a blank. Last CCTV shows him running out of a park onto the main road and then soon after he disappears.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38037760?client=safari


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Thread here - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...k-20-Nov-2015&highlight=rory+johnson+hatfield

 

[Shiressleuth]

Agree ruth so the 0321 figure could be at the time C was leaving or in Hs. Have Cs father and grandparents discounted this pic does anyone know?

 

[Northern Light]

Is anyone aware of the Rory Hatfield-Johnson missing person case?

They are very similar. He was on CCTV one minute then gone the next, they look alike and so many points of the case are so similar. There is also a Find Rory page called 'Rory Johnson is missing'. Police have said oh he fell into the River but no one is believing this as he was a happy guy and many searches of the river and banks have drawn a blank. Last CCTV shows him running out of a park onto the main road and then soon after he disappears.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38037760?client=safari


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I remember it and still follow for updates. It looked as if he was being chased along the balcony.

 

[Shiressleuth]

As I said earlier, N website states body analysis has been done but how could that have been done with legs and lurker unless there are some better images. I would like to see confirmation from both sides of the family that 0321 is definitely not C.

 

[Northern Light]

As I said earlier, N website states body analysis has been done but how could that have been done with legs and lurker unless there are some better images. I would like to see confirmation from both sides of the family that 0321 is definitely not C.

That's a good point, both sides of the family as there is his dad's side too.

 

[Scottishem1]

Is anyone aware of the Rory Hatfield-Johnson missing person case?

They are very similar. He was on CCTV one minute then gone the next, they look alike and so many points of the case are so similar. There is also a Find Rory page called 'Rory Johnson is missing'. Police have said oh he fell into the River but no one is believing this as he was a happy guy and many searches of the river and banks have drawn a blank. Last CCTV shows him running out of a park onto the main road and then soon after he disappears.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38037760?client=safari


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I've thought for a while although it may sound whack I honestly think for a wee while now there has been a serial killer operating in England IMO

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[Scottishem1]

Is anyone aware of the Rory Hatfield-Johnson missing person case?

They are very similar. He was on CCTV one minute then gone the next, they look alike and so many points of the case are so similar. There is also a Find Rory page called 'Rory Johnson is missing'. Police have said oh he fell into the River but no one is believing this as he was a happy guy and many searches of the river and banks have drawn a blank. Last CCTV shows him running out of a park onto the main road and then soon after he disappears.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/38037760?client=safari


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Also they are very very similar I was shocked when I saw him 😕

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[bbyblueeyez]

that river is notorious though for claiming lives of people must say they do resemble one another though

 

[jessie]

Also they are very very similar I was shocked when I saw him ��

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I could as usual be incorrect. But at the time of Rory's disappearance that river was in full flood.? Please go to the thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...k-20-Nov-2015&highlight=rory+johnson+hatfield
it has many valuable points and pics for information..

 

[Shiressleuth]

That's a good point, both sides of the family as there is his dad's side too.

Also if there is foul play or a serial perp then solving one could be a break in the other cases too imo.

 

[Ruthbullock]

Also if there is foul play or a serial perp then solving one could be a break in the other cases too imo.

He does look very very similar, rumour has ran for years there is a river pusher both in York and manchester (which drive wise is only an hours and a half ), but aside from physical similarities, I doubt there is a link.

 

[Northern Light]

Also if there is foul play or a serial perp then solving one could be a break in the other cases too imo.

Agreed.

 

[evansrc3]

Agree ruth so the 0321 figure could be at the time C was leaving or in Hs. Have Cs father and grandparents discounted this pic does anyone know?

Don't follow this one.
Even allowing for time code inaccuracy, is it likely he'd have changed all his clothing?
That would suggest planned AWOL, but the previous events including getting hammered don't suggest that do they?
Though I suppose the fact they in no way suggest it could mean that it was a genius masterplan.

 

[bbyblueeyez]

Were was the other lad who went missing they think hes in a river also Ben that's his name he hasn't been found either

 

[bbyblueeyez]

I have always been a firm believer that Awol isn't planned the lads who I have spoken to and my own son that did it was not planned due to mental health playing apart on most. That last clip of Corrie always makes me feel a little sad he looks so lost IMO and sad but it maybe just the hangover kicking in from the kip he took

 

[Ruthbullock]

I have always been a firm believer that Awol isn't planned the lads who I have spoken to and my own son that did it was not planned due to mental health playing apart on most. That last clip of Corrie always makes me feel a little sad he looks so lost IMO and sad but it maybe just the hangover kicking in from the kip he took

I agree with the last cctv, it is not someone who was walking through an area on a mission to be elsewhere. I am still torn between awol, unplanned due to feeling down that night or chance/prearranged hook up and went off with someone to somewhere.

 

[bbyblueeyez]

Ruithbullock I firmly don't believe Awol but that's only cos I'm going on how I found my own son when he went Awol from Army Corrie is not my son therefore could be totally different but I'm sticking with house in Bury or accident walking back to base.