UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #17

[Tucker]

I have the window was jemmied the window wasn't jemmied, The doors were locked the doors were unlocked ! sorry I couldn't resist.
R

Lol, indeed! Slightly different of course because tons of evidence suggests what did happen and what certainly did not happen in that case, wheres in this case I don't think anyone has anything other than wild guesses.

 

[jessie]

I have the window was jemmied the window wasn't jemmied, The doors were locked the doors were unlocked ! sorry I couldn't resist.
R

Awful the sense of deja vu isn't it. Even wrist bands ?

 

[Deleted member 189081]

Awful the sense of deja vu isn't it. ?

Yes it certainly is. Any way onward and upwards hopefully this case will have a conclusion and we wont be here 10 years later famous last words!


R

 

[Northern Light]

Yes we know he used it in his Car as he was talking to his brother but didnt the police say they didnt see him use it in hughes doorway. But in both cctv clips of C his pockets look full telling me he still had his phone

thats the update info on findcorrie.co.uk. Wonder if perhaps it didn't send at the time it was written or if the receiving phone was just switched on at that time. Agree with you about the pockets.

**This page was updated with information regarding the message received at 03.08am – Originally believed to have been sent at that time however Nicola found out that this message could have been sent early, this is confirmed during the live feed on the Find Corrie facebook group by Corrie’s brothers – Darroch and Makeyan
Corrie’s Brothers (Darroch and Makeyan) was Live on Find Corrie FB Group

 

[Deleted member 189081]

Outside of a light hearted comment on a serious subject. Is it just possible LE and perhaps MSM have learned from previous cases on how best to handle Social Media and the internet. This seems very much more controlled about what is officially said by anyone. Other than the Bin Lorry gaff by which ever MSM outlet. I personally have not seen anyone named as a potential witness with most people being much more considerate and measured in their comments and observations. A personal opinion but I do have a feeling lessons have been learned from past cases subject to internet interest.

KR
R

 

[Northern Light]

I wonder if SP will be permitted to track mobile phones, of any persons of interest to them, and get access to data, or have MIS the capability to do this, ( they won't have the personal info, if they are not working together), at a persons of interest stage. The bin man would be one, but wondering about the other vehicles, and those individuals ID'd from CCTV, and those Corrie had contact with that night, who have been ID'd.
edit - I am talking about people who may not be on C's phone records, but those ID'd lately, even today.

 

[Deleted member 189081]

I wonder if SP will be permitted to track mobile phones, of any persons of interest to them, and get access to data, or have MIS the capability to do this, ( they won't have the personal info, if they are not working together), at a persons of interest stage. The bin man would be one, but wondering about the other vehicles,mand those individuals ID'd from CCTV, and those Corrie had contact with that night, who have been ID'd.

Don't forget the phone would have been in NU name if what we are told is correct therefore there is nothing stopping SP from asking and NU giving permission to the service provider to pass these details forward to herself or the SP. That's the way I see it

 

[Shiressleuth]

Don't forget the phone would have been in NU name if what we are told is correct therefore there is nothing stopping SP from asking and NU giving permission to the service provider to pass these details forward to herself or the SP. That's the way I see it

I would hope that was done in the first week. Re the cyclist, the update says he has been "traced" rather than come forward or been identified.
Edit . LE also say "The police have identified" as well as "traced" on my second reading.

 

[Shiressleuth]

"Police have traced a potential witness seen in the area where Corrie McKeague vanished as officers prepare to search a landfill site for the missing RAF airman.

The 23-year-old disappeared after partying with friends in Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, on September 24 last year, and hasn't been seen or heard from since."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/corrie-mckeague-new-witness-traced-9840117

"After partying with friends in BSE" is a bit of a change isn't it? Rather than after sleeping in a doorway for two hours. Couldn't be more different IMOO.

 

[Taskforce88]

Was the cyclist acting suspiciously? Face covered? No hi-vis, lights, helmet etc?

The fact that the cyclist hasn't some forward since September 22 is telling. Unless they don't watch or read the news.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Nicola seems sure they'll find Corrie in landfill (BBC video)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/c/uk-scotland-39009408

 

[Northern Light]

Don't forget the phone would have been in NU name if what we are told is correct therefore there is nothing stopping SP from asking and NU giving permission to the service provider to pass these details forward to herself or the SP. That's the way I see it

Sorry my post isn't clear enough, I meant the other persons, such as cyclist etc, would they get access to their phone pings and who was calling who, even if they didn't show on C phone.

 

[Northern Light]

I would hope that was done in the first week. Re the cyclist, the update says he has been "traced" rather than come forward or been identified.
Edit . LE also say "The police have identified" as well as "traced" on my second reading.

The people they have traced lately, one in the past day or two, others, may not be on C's phone, so can they access their phone records and track pings the night and days after C went missing.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I wonder if SP will be permitted to track mobile phones, of any persons of interest to them, and get access to data, or have MIS the capability to do this, ( they won't have the personal info, if they are not working together), at a persons of interest stage. The bin man would be one, but wondering about the other vehicles, and those individuals ID'd from CCTV, and those Corrie had contact with that night, who have been ID'd.
edit - I am talking about people who may not be on C's phone records, but those ID'd lately, even today.

If LE have any suspicions of foul play I am sure they would be able to obtain warrants for that. Especially as they now intend to search landfill.
Edit. You mean to co-locate them with C's phone, if possible, I assume.

 

[Northern Light]

Nicola seems sure they'll find Corrie in landfill (BBC video)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/c/uk-scotland-39009408

Possibly too, why they delayed searching landfill to see if they get anything that could help further pinpoint a certain area in it. She is very brave, and composed. JMO.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Was the cyclist acting suspiciously? Face covered? No hi-vis, lights, helmet etc?

The fact that the cyclist hasn't some forward since September 22 is telling. Unless they don't watch or read the news.

Do you mean Sep 24th ?

 

[Northern Light]

If LE have any suspicions of foul play I am sure they would be able to obtain warrants for that. Especially as they now intend to search landfill.
Edit. You mean to co-locate them with C's phone, if possible, I assume.

No, I mean without C phone. Can they track them to landfill etc. from their phone, so if they can get permission, as persons of interest, then maybe delaying the landfill search, may also be for phone search warrants for those just ID'd.MOO

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Possibly too, why they delayed searching landfill to see if they get anything that could help further pinpoint a certain area in it. She is very brave, and composed. JMO.

It is all so unusual. Not to be grim but I would think, given it seems to us right now that there is no evidence or witnesses to what happened in/around the horseshoe, locating the body to find out cause of death would be the priority if they thought murder was a possibility?

The only left field thing I can think of is if the whole episode/argument about the landfill search was a ruse and he was dumped there after the announcement that it wouldn't be searched?

I find this hard to believe though.

 

[Deleted member 189081]

No, I mean without C phone. Can they track them to landfill etc. from their phone, so if they can get permission, as persons of interest, then maybe delaying the landfill search, may also be for phone search warrants for those just ID'd.MOO

Understood! I had misread totally I would hope they could do that sort of thing

R

 

[Northern Light]

It is all so unusual. Not to be grim but I would think, given it seems to us right now that there is no evidence or witnesses to what happened in/around the horseshoe, locating the body to find out cause of death would be the priority if they thought murder was a possibility?

The only left field thing I can think of is if the whole episode/argument about the landfill search was a ruse and he was dumped there after the announcement that it wouldn't be searched?

I find this hard to believe though.

Thanks TTWO. Second last para good point though, depending if they were suspicious of anything at that time, it's as valid a theory as everything else we are trying to make sense of.