UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #18

[TheTruthWillOut]

We are told that the part of the landfill being searched is all rubbish collected from BSE. About 8000 tonnes so why is it there if it's supposed to be incinerated?

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The 8,000 tonnes isn't the BSE waste it was earth SP where having moved/dug out to create pathways/channels for the searchers to access what they do want to search.

Yes it would and possibly missed four or five times at collection, transfer, sorting, incineration and sorting again prior to landfill. That's why I find it hard to believe TBH unless waste is going direct to landfill, when it would then still have to be missed twice.

I agree it is hard to believe he could be missed twice never mind more times. From reading up on it, so long as a business pre-sorts their own waste like have a bin for mixed recycling then it's possible a general waste bin can go direct to landfill. The question (if we assume a Monday Council bin pickup in SB) then is can/do Suffolk Council go directly to Milton in a BL and unload? If not then was Corrie deliberately wrapped up sometime over that weekend before the bin was picked up meaning he could be missed at whatever WTS? Also pretty hard to believe but then all scenarios are...

 

[Shiressleuth]

From what I have read no individual bin lorries go direct to landfill. That is the whole purpose of the WTS. IMO.

 

[Coach]

I haven't seen anything yet but tbh Biffa have been very quite about the whole thing. You'd think they might have issued previous statements about their policies and how it would be impossible for them not to notice a body in the waste, or maybe they aren't so confident in their procedures?

I have previously posted my view that for C to end up in the landfill they must have had serious failings in their procedures and now I'm thinking this is even more likely

I agree, even before the arrest and with all the previous speculation, you would think that a company which should have strict policies would issue some sort of statement. If their employee(s) are not adhering to the rules and regulations they should be then that is even more reason to issue something official.

 

[Coach]

In the last CCTV of Corrie, it looks like he is possibly intending to carry on walking but he stops and looks to the right, could he have spotted the bins and thought he would keep dry and warm to sleep for a few hours till morning to drive his car out of the disabled bay? If he had accidentally knocked himself out climbing into the bin or if he didn't hear the lorry (could the lorry electric have been electric?) the most logical explanation is that he was unfortunately tipped into the lorry from the bin. It would explain why he was not seen leaving the HS. Could the bin have been swapped later on as part of the cover up?

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

From what I have read no individual bin lorries go direct to landfill. That is the whole purpose of the WTS. IMO.

I tend to agree TBH in which case given Corrie was 85KG wearing white jeans and pink shirt it's unbelievable he could be missed. His dad agrees having been a binman.

This is why I suggest he was somehow concealed in my previous post if he is found at the landfill.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I agree, even before the arrest and with all the previous speculation, you would think that a company which should have strict policies would issue some sort of statement. If their employee(s) are not adhering to the rules and regulations they should be then that is even more reason to issue something official.

Apparently they did issue a statement according to the Sun previously linked it went something like a Biffa spokesman said it would not be appropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation. They would say that wouldn't they?

 

[comc]

I haven't seen anything yet but tbh Biffa have been very quite about the whole thing. You'd think they might have issued previous statements about their policies and how it would be impossible for them not to notice a body in the waste, or maybe they aren't so confident in their procedures?

I doubt they would feel confident enough to issue a statement that operational procedures would negate the possibility of him having been in the back of the bin lorry when he has still not been found. I'd also imagine the police would prevent them from doing so as it could influence any potential witnesses decision to come forward.

 

[Coach]

Apparently they did issue s statement according to the Sun previously linked it went something like a Biffa spokesman said it would not be appropriate to comment on an ongoing investigation. They would say that wouldn't they?

Thanks Shiressleuth, I didn't realise they had issued that but as you say, they would say that wouldn't they.

 

[suzyjackson]

I doubt they would feel confident enough to issue a statement that operational procedures would negate the possibility of him having been in the back of the bin lorry when he has still not been found. I'd also imagine the police would prevent them from doing so as it could influence any potential witnesses decision to come forward.

So if you're Biifa and there's a suggestion that your lax procedures have somehow allowed a body to get to the LF undetected surely the first thing you're going to do is investigate the hell out of everything last detail of what happened that night.

If somethings being concealed it's got to involve more than one person lying so they didn't get to the truth OR they found out that their procedures aren't robust (ie they have some steps that solely involve one person with no independent oversight) and decided to conceal this from the police and not come clean with the possibility that there could be a body in the LF until somehow the police found out that HS was lying some 4 months later.

I still don't see either of these as being very likely. Any cover up at Biffa would also involve more than one person and I don't think that BSE would have so many residents willing to go along with all this when a sizeable reward was on offer. You could say that Biffa employees would be too worried about their jobs to be whistleblowers but I don't subscribe to that either, a large organisation in a high profile situation like this is going to be very aware of their public image and is wouldn't risk the bad publicity of sackings IMO


At the moment the only theories that fits for me are planned AWOL or hook up gone wrong with C being left is a wooded ara that hasn't been searched yet

JMO

 

[Shiressleuth]

My thoughts about the knife. I think it is suspicious because of where it was found. E.g. if C had entered a building or vehicle that was not checked and something has happened in that building or vehicle then the knife may not have been immediately disposed of until after the external searches. JMO.

I would like to know the DNA results of the M40 remains, results of landfill search as well as results of any forensics performed on outstanding vehicle (s) and the knife.

 

[Coach]

My thoughts about the knife. I think it is suspicious because of where it was found. E.g. if C had entered a building or vehicle that was not checked and something has happened in that building or vehicle then the knife may not have been immediately disposed of until after the external searches. JMO.

What kind of knife was it and when was it found?

 

[suzyjackson]

My thoughts about the knife. I think it is suspicious because of where it was found. E.g. if C had entered a building or vehicle that was not checked and something has happened in that building or vehicle then the knife may not have been immediately disposed of until after the external searches. JMO.

I would like to know the DNA results of the M40 remains, results of landfill search as well as results of any forensics performed on outstanding vehicle (s) and the knife.

I can't now find any MSM mention of the knife and I can't be sure where I saw it but odd that it's gone now.

 

[LiLew]

My thoughts about the knife. I think it is suspicious because of where it was found. E.g. if C had entered a building or vehicle that was not checked and something has happened in that building or vehicle then the knife may not have been immediately disposed of until after the external searches. JMO.

I would like to know the DNA results of the M40 remains, results of landfill search as well as results of any forensics performed on outstanding vehicle (s) and the knife.

The M40 remains aren't Corrie, I cannot find the article, but I know I read them.. I think it was 2 days after NU update. The ones I read had no 'at this time' just that they were 'not connected to missing airman'.

The screenshot yesterday said TVP said no connection to Corrie. It was after NU said they was waiting on DNA.

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[Shiressleuth]

What kind of knife was it and when was it found?

Scorpio posted the link yesterday and I commented then. I have pulled the posts forward to earlier today but the original MSM link no longer has the report in it so only my comment remains. IIRC it was found when the store Icandy were clearing some rubbish so they handed it in and SP said it wasn't there when they did original searches. I don't recall any description though.

 

[pinklilies]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...unt-man-arrested-special-constable-works-bin/

It is still in this link but you have to click on the 'see more' of his fathers FB post. He only mentions it to clarify it has nothing to do with CM disappearance.

 

[Shiressleuth]

The M40 remains aren't Corrie, I cannot find the article, but I know I read them.. I think it was 2 days after NU update. The ones I read had no 'at this time' just that they were 'not connected to missing airman'.

The screenshot yesterday said TVP said no connection to Corrie. It was after NU said they was waiting on DNA.

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N stated in MSM that there was nothing to indicate the remains were C but that DNA results were awaited and that could take some time. This was in previous MSM links dated 7 Feb but I have not seen results yet that is what I would like to see. Have TVP now issued the DNA results because I haven't found a link so far?
Ps. The screenshot was the BBC stating TVP said no connection so I prefer to see the confirmation from TVP.

 

[Shiressleuth]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...unt-man-arrested-special-constable-works-bin/

It is still in this link but you have to click on the 'see more' of his fathers FB post. He only mentions it to clarify it has nothing to do with CM disappearance.

Thank you, I was beginning to think I had imagined it. It is amazing that for us to read a SP statement it is buried in a Fb family post within a MSM article. Have SP put this out in an update somewhere officially at all?

 

[pinklilies]

Thank you, I was beginning to think I had imagined it. It is amazing that for us to read a SP statement it is buried in a Fb family post within a MSM article. Have SP put this out in an update somewhere officially at all?

Oh you're welcome. I know how frustrating it can be when you know you've read something somewhere but then can no longer find it.

I'm not sure it was ever a SP statement? His father just mentions it being on SM.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Oh you're welcome. I know how frustrating it can be when you know you've read something somewhere but then can no longer find it.

I'm not sure it was ever a SP statement? His father just mentions it being on SM.

MM had it in inverted commas as a quote direct from SP rather than in his own words so that's why I think that. I think if SP haven't directly released this it seems a bit strange, almost as if SP wanted it to "leak" out.

 

[suzyjackson]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/lat...er-Corrie-McKeague-mother-internet-trolls/amp

Is this an old article? Do you think it's aimed at WS, I haven't seen any discussion of swinging since it first came to light, maybe I've missed it.

IMO it's not nice but it's a fact of an online world that people are freely and easily able to discuss anything and everything, I'm not sure that blocking people won't just fan the flames and lead to lots of splinter groups

I feel very for the family of course but you can't put that genie back in the bottle

JMO