UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #2

[TheTruthWillOut]

I saved this quote from Nicola:

"Corrie sat on his phone for an hour drinking and talking. Then 3 hours drinking in the pubs. And corrie isn't a princess that drinks slowly. That is why he was unsteady on his feet. But he then ate 2 burgers a kebab and chips... the boys love their food. Then he slept for 2 hours x"

Thanks, that's the one. I have now just re-read this a couple of times and now read it differently to before. He sat on his phone for an hour drinking and talking.....who was he talking to on the phone for an hour? Seems a long time to be talking on the phone when out clubbing? That is how I now read it?

Also I do have to say, and do understand why, that Corrie's family are very delicate around possible "naughty" things Corrie may or may not have done that night. It means we might not be getting some info that may help to work things out.

I mean he has now been missing over 6 weeks and nobody is going to be passing moral judgments (at least they shouldn't be).

 

[JamesKing]

I don't think he was 'third thought' territory. Possibly a reluctant first definite second...
'Have we got all the lads?',
'Yeh, except Corrie.',
'Where is the muppet?'
'He'll get a lift with X into BSE, he'll be fine.'
'Well he's still part of the team. Make sure he's OK for a lift in to BSE will ya!'

Followed by a nod of acknowledgement. Get my drift?

Creditable. Not sure how true. But Credible.
There are "rules" (well, there once were rules....and "old muckers out on the tear" still follow them)

Some Rock Ape walked into a bar full of pongo cherry ladies (I'm being nice) and was "rather obtuse". Jesus, that should of being on tele. A group of them together...and that's brainstorming right there !

 

[MelmothTheLost]

Also I do have to say, and do understand why, that Corrie's family are very delicate around possible "naughty" things Corrie may or may not have done that night. It means we might not be getting some info that may help to work things out.

A few pages ago someone suggested there was a rumoured knocking shop in a flat in the area where he was last seen. I'm just wondering if it's at all possible that Corrie could have gone in there and then come to grief.

However, it's also been reported that it was close to the end of the month and he may have been short of the readies anyway.

 

[JamesKing]

Thanks, that's the one. I have now just re-read this a couple of times and now read it differently to before. He sat on his phone for an hour drinking and talking.....who was he talking to on the phone for an hour? Seems a long time to be talking on the phone when out clubbing? That is how I now read it?

Also I do have to say, and do understand why, that Corrie's family are very delicate around possible "naughty" things Corrie may or may not have done that night. It means we might not be getting some info that may help to work things out.

I mean he has now been missing over 6 weeks and nobody is going to be passing moral judgements (at least they shouldn't be).

But you have to remember two things.....

One. Being in an infantry regiment, isn't a tickling contest.

Bootnecks (who clearly excel in many areas and are generally the best characters), The RAF "Rock Ape" things and the ladies that the army employ to jump out of perfectly good aeroplanes ...are always in "good humour" when they meet for a light ale or 18. This is to be expected.

Two. This lad has gone missing...and lets face it, he is presumed murdered. And no one has a clue whats happened. His whole night appears "odd", so we have to add up things to make it "what anyone would else would do".

TBH, the car looks a good thing to wait around to protect. But then again, how many squaddie's own a car like that. There are "if's" and "but's" all the way through. We need some clear answers to questions....and that means we need some clear questions ?

Like I said at the start of this post. This isn't a tickling competition !

 

[suzyjackson]

Thanks, that's the one. I have now just re-read this a couple of times and now read it differently to before. He sat on his phone for an hour drinking and talking.....who was he talking to on the phone for an hour? Seems a long time to be talking on the phone when out clubbing? That is how I now read it?

Also I do have to say, and do understand why, that Corrie's family are very delicate around possible "naughty" things Corrie may or may not have done that night. It means we might not be getting some info that may help to work things out.

I mean he has now been missing over 6 weeks and nobody is going to be passing moral judgments (at least they shouldn't be).

When people say someone is on their phone ime they don't mean talking on the phone, which wouldn't be possible in a noisy club you'd think, they mean checking social media, sending messages, taking photos or whatever whilst also chatting with friends at the same time.

 

[hermes&&]

A few pages ago someone suggested there was a rumoured knocking shop in a flat in the area where he was last seen. I'm just wondering if it's at all possible that Corrie could have gone in there and then come to grief.

However, it's also been reported that it was close to the end of the month and he may have been short of the readies anyway.

Didn't know knocking shops stayed open that late.

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[TheTruthWillOut]

When people say someone is on their phone ime they don't mean talking on the phone, which wouldn't be possible in a noisy club you'd think, they mean checking social media, sending messages, taking photos or whatever whilst also chatting with friends at the same time.

Quite possible but I can only go by how Nicola worded it. Sat down talking on the phone for an hour is pretty clear. Then again for a long time it was "landfill" and that turned out to be the recycling centre like I thought. (maybe Tony reads here?)

I just feel so frustrated we haven't been given an update from the Police and so we're left to go over the same things from another angle for the tenth time trying to find answers that probably aren't there....

 

[BookCollector]

Consider a scenario whereby the 3 teenagers mentioned where involved in the death of a serving British serviceman, and their immigration status was say transient..... given the current political landscape would the ramifications of this be sufficient in awarding a D Notice....

This seems at least plausible to me.

 

[JamesKing]

Didn't know knocking shops stayed open that late.

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You'll be surprised..... that's what my mother told me !

 

[suzyjackson]

Quite possible but I can only go by how Nicola worded it. Sat down talking on the phone for an hour is pretty clear. Then again for a long time it was "landfill" and that turned out to be the recycling centre like I thought. (maybe Tony reads here?)

I just feel so frustrated we haven't been given an update from the Police and so we're left to go over the same things from another angle for the tenth time trying to find answers that probably aren't there....

We are reading it differently, in your quote she said "Corrie sat on his phone for an hour drinking and talking" to me that means he was using his phone and talking to people he was with rather than talking to people on the phone.

I agree that Tony or someone in the family reads here, the timing of the change of description of the landfill was too coincidental to be an accident

 

[Purplepixii]

I have transcribed the radio/podcast interview with Tony here, as it's a bit easier to scan through text than to skip through an audio file to confirm details.

Thank you! Still catching up on today's posts thanks to a busy day at work but of all the things that stood out to me in that interview, this one got me (BBM):

"HOST: It's been all over the internet, that somehow maybe people aren't taking it seriously because they do believe that maybe Corrie ran away. That he had some kind of personal problem, or a sexual problem that he felt that he had to deal with. I mean, I'm really sorry to ask you, but just for being frank and in a way criticising the authorities, I feel it's only fair to balance this and say these things are out there on the internet. What would you like to say to that?

TW: Yeah, and again, it's a question I've been asked. It's a reasonable question for people to ask. Again, I think in terms of whether it's a disappearance through choice, there just simply is no evidence for that. There's no preparation being made and there's no major incident in his life that would suddenly cause him to flee. And I think the speculation about some sort of sexual nature has been made in reference to where his phone was pinged. On a mast where it was last pinged, is a place called Barton Mills, where there's a known dogging site. I can't say I'm that close to Corrie's sexual preferences and what have you, all I can tell you is he's a 23 year old young lad and I think that guys nowadays - well, not just guys - but people nowadays of that age have got some sexual freedoms and choices that I don't think existed. And I'm not that much older-"

Back to catching up!

 

[Deleted member 178385]

There is an update from SULSAR on search areas:

"We said that we would keep you up to date with what was going on with the search for #Corrie .

We have continued to search some areas both around #BartonMills and #BurystEdmunds up until last week .

After reviewing areas searched by the team to date with Suffolk Constabulary Official Page , it has been agree that some areas around Barton Mills should now be included within a broader search area .

Locations and search areas are being drawn up at the present times and teams will be deployed a little later in the week . We will continue to search for Corrie until we find him or we run out of areas to search .

We are still lacking any new credible information , so please if you have any thing sensible that you believe may help the team please either contact Suffolk Constabulary or the team us on our face book page .

We are in regular contact with Nicola and the family who are fully aware of our intentions and fully support our search to these broader areas .

We must continue to thank the public for your amazing support , it keeps the team fully focused on the task in hand and our efforts to find Corrie .

I will update you later in the week once searches have re-commenced"

http://www.sulsar.org.uk/

 

[bestie]

Now HERE'S a thought. With reference to the three teenagers who were allegedly caught arguing on CCTV by a woman in a flat at 0400 in Shortbrackland...could that have been Corrie a female AND another male? The car is already in Shortbrackland and after an altercation (possible affair and male partner catches them both and confront Corrie?) Corrie enters the car, the mobile is binned...the rest is the puzzle?

I have alluded to this further back. I only recall hearing descriptions for two people despite cctv being available, to me something is not quite right here.They apparently had 3 people come forward for this but depends what you believe really.The time and the area and given it seems very quiet around there seems to stand out to me.

 

[Amonet]

I don't think the categorisation matters as much as the lines of inquiry they're investigating, and that seems to include anything and everything until they have answers?

If a child had gone missing, then things like local sex offenders would be looked into. I figure that if an adult goes missing under possibly suspicious circumstances that the same would happen for adult offenders of crimes that might be relevant. But without evidence of what's happened, how would you know what type of person you're looking for to narrow that down? I imagine the best thing is to get the license plates and then check criminal databases, and it seems to me that if they're currently asking everyone who was driving at the Tesco roundabout in Bury or the Barton Mills roundabout that that will be part of the checks they will run on those cars, and combine that with who comes forward and who doesn't.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Here is my question, James.

When was the next bin lorry pickup after the one at ~04:00 on the 24th?

I would like to know the above to see if my "simple" theory could work. There had to be another rubbish pickup over that weekend before Corrie was missed but I haven't read that other bin pickups have been looked into?

 

[Tillymint]

Could the wait not be very simple? Corrie left the club, got some food and sat down to eat it with every intention of going back to the club afterwards. Instead he dozed off/passed out due to the alcohol and when he woke up realised he'd slept too long and everyone would have already left. At that point he had to work out how he was getting home.
The rest is a mystery.

 

[Amonet]

The police haven't said that the teenagers are suspected of any crimes. They could have arrived there after 3.30...maybe that's why they didn't see anything? The police put out a description of them that I assume was all the description they could get, and that's there to help them or someone they know recognise them so they can contact the police or the police can find them. They've been found. They would not have been the only people out in BSE that night...if it was club closing time then there should have been quite a few people around, it's just that most were walking around and not drawing as much attention to themselves by hanging around in one place and maybe being a bit noisy.

 

[hermes&&]

Here is my question, James.

When was the next bin lorry pickup after the one at ~04:00 on the 24th?

I would like to know the above to see if my "simple" theory could work. There had to be another rubbish pickup over that weekend before Corrie was missed but I haven't read that other bin pickups have been looked into?

I'm assuming that this has been covered by the police. But if like to know for sure.



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[TheTruthWillOut]

I'm assuming that this has been covered by the police. But if like to know for sure.



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Yes I'm sure it would have been but my worry is the lead time. How many days was it until the Police looked into the first bin lorry?

 

[hermes&&]

Yes I'm sure it would have been but my worry is the lead time. How many days was it until the Police looked into the first bin lorry?

A few days at least, because they needed the CCTV to know he was there. But there may not have been a collection for a few days either.

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