GUILTY UK - Dr. Saman Mir Sacharvi, 49, & Vian Mangrio, 14, found dead, Reedley, 1 Oct 2020 *ARREST*

Life sentence would be incase of guilty too? So what would be the difference between pleaded guilty and not accepting guilty
It seems he could very well be a man who does not deal well with rejection and public ridicule. I propose, first rejection by Dr Saman, with whom he had an obsession, and second his hugely feared rejection in public court, of his fantastical claims, when the jury would pronounce his guilt. That's how I'm reading it.

I don't think he will get any credit (reduced sentence) for a guilty plea because it came at the end of his trial.
 
So pleased to see he pleaded guilty! I was shocked that he didn't plead guilty before the trial but, as Tortoise said, I think he realised the court could see through his ridiculous lies and ultimately decided that he would rather plead guilty than be found guilty.
 
Perhaps it is a matter of control with him. He controlled the fate of his victims. He controlled the narrative when confronted with the proof of his presence at the murder scene. And he controlled his own fate by pleading guilty rather than being "judged" guilty. Just a theory.
 
He pleaded guilty on the last stage in mental pressure to save his wife! He was unable to see her in court in front of QC!

alas he didn’t knowhe is doing wrong.

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It is my most sincere hope that all who love and will miss Saman and Vian until they themselves have passed rest with more peaceful hearts tonight knowing Saman's and Vian's deaths are being avenged. By Justice.
 
He pleaded guilty on the last stage in mental pressure to save his wife! He was unable to see her in court in front of QC!

alas he didn’t knowhe is doing wrong.

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I’m not sure any evidence put forward or an admission of guilt is going to convince you he did this.
I think he plead guilty now because he knew he couldn’t explain away anymore evidence put forward.
People have killed for twenty dollars, 10k is a large sum of money if you are struggling financially. Humans do some unexplainable things. Moo
 
A man has admitted the brutal murders of a mother and daughter at their home in Reedley last year.

Shahbaz Khan, 61, of Ribble Avenue, Burnley, appeared at Preston Crown Court charged with murdering Dr Saman Mir Sacharvi, 49, and her 14-year-old daughter, Vian Mangrio, at their home on Colne Road on September 30th.

Khan had initially denied his part in the killings and was put on trial, but yesterday (Wednesday, June 30th) pleaded guilty to two counts of murder, as proceedings were coming to a close. He also pleaded guilty to a further count of arson being reckless as to whether life is endangered, having set both bodies alight after killing them.

His wife, Rabia Shahbaz, 45, also of Ribble Avenue, Burnley, stood trial at the same time and was convicted today (Thursday, July 1st) of committing an act with intent to pervert the course of justice, having given false alibis for her husband for the day of the murders.

Both the trial judge and the foreman of the jury commended the police for the quality of the investigation.

The bodies of Saman and Vian were found on the morning of October 1st 2020, after police were called to their home address over concerns for their welfare.

Vian’s body was found badly burnt in a downstairs room, while Saman’s body was found upstairs. Attempts had also been made to burn her body, but the fire had failed to take hold.

A post-mortem examination concluded Saman died from pressure to the neck, the home office pathologist concluding that it is likely that she had been strangled with a ligature. Vian’s body was so badly fire-damaged that the pathologist could only say she died of asphyxiation ‘on the balance of probabilities’ based on bruising to the inside of her throat and the fact that she had a woollen item draped around her neck and in her mouth.

Both women had Diazepam – sometimes known under the brand name Valium - in their systems, suggesting they had been drugged prior to being killed.

Following the discovery of the bodies a major investigation was launched and officers pieced together CCTV, telephone records, witness and other evidence to establish Mr Khan had carried out the killings.

This evidence included CCTV footage which showed a figure approaching the house at around 11.50am on the day of the murders, and not leaving until around 10pm.

Shahbaz initially told police her husband had been at home all day, however this was proven to be a lie. She then told police Khan had been at work at Tesco on the day of the murders, however this was also proven false.

Khan later admitted he was the figure seen entering and leaving the address on September 30th, but until last week denied murdering the mother and daughter, saying they were still alive when he left the house.

The prosecution argued that he had, in fact, drugged Saman by mixing Diazepam, Rose wine, fruit and a spice into a smoothie. Once she was drugged, and unable to fight back, he had killed her.

Vian had returned home from school at around 3.25pm that day, at which point she was also drugged and killed.

Prior to leaving the address it is believed Khan made attempts to cover his tracks by setting both bodies and a kettle in the kitchen alight to suggest the deaths had been caused by an electrical fire.

He had also scrawled graffiti on the walls which said ‘my mum is evil’ and ‘this is a Covid house’, which the prosecution said was done in case the fires didn’t take hold to suggest a falling-out between the two victims which had resulted in Saman taking her own and her daughter’s life.

It is believed that the Diazepam used to drug the victims may have been prescribed for Shahbaz by Saman herself, in her capacity as a doctor.

A quantity of jewellery belonging to Saman, worth an estimated £27,000, was later found in Khan and Shahbaz’s loft by police.

Detective Chief Insp Pauline Stables, of Lancashire Police’s Force Major Investigation Team, said: “A mother and daughter lost their lives in what can only be described as a brutal and shocking attack, and it is impossible to comprehend what they must have gone through that day.

“From the very start of the investigation it was clear that Saman and Vian were exceptional women: both popular, friendly, hard-working and kind. The loss felt by their family and friends is immeasurable.

“Not only were they killed in their own home, where they should have been safe, but they were attacked by someone they knew and trusted. Though Mr Khan’s motive remains unclear, we believe it could have been greed or jealousy, especially as we found a quantity of jewellery belonging to Saman at his address following the murders.

“When the police investigation was launched Mr Khan began to weave a web of lies, aided by Mrs Shahbaz, who gave him false alibis for the day of the killings. When he finally admitted he had been at the address that day he still refused to admit his guilt.

“Since then he has forced the grieving families of both victims to sit through three weeks of a trial throughout which he continued to deny responsibility before finally admitting his guilt.

"We cannot thank the families enough for the dignified way they have conducted themselves throughout the investigation and subsequent judicial process and we hope they are able to take some comfort from the fact that Mr Khan has admitted his guilt and Mrs Shahbaz has been convicted.

“We know these murders caused shockwaves in Reedley and we must also thank the community for their help and support, particularly those people who provided us with CCTV and other information that helped us piece together what happened.

“I would also like to commend all the officers and staff at Lancashire Police whose dedication and professionalism in this hugely emotive case has led to getting justice for Saman and Vian.

“Finally, though nothing can bring back Saman and Vian, justice has now been served and we must thank the jury for the time they spent considering all the evidence, some of which was quite distressing.”

Khan and Shahbaz will be sentenced at a later date.

Saman’s husband, Wahid Bux Shaikh, said: “Losing both my wife and Vian in this way has devastated me more than I can ever say.

Saman was kind, a wonderful wife and a great friend. She worked hard and was a great doctor. She was also a very caring person. I just feel so alone without her.

“Vian was a lovely young girl. She was clever, polite, kind, worked hard at school and I am certain she would have had a very successful life. She had a lovely relationship with her mother and I was so happy to be part of their family. I would give anything to hear her voice again.

“Our time together as a family has been cut short in the most horrific way. I will never get back what I have lost. I still cannot understand why this has happened and how anyone could do such an awful thing.

“I have watched and listened to this trial every day and it has broken my heart to hear what they have gone through.

“I have lost anything that meant anything to me and I am not sure how I can ever get over this.”

The wider family said: “We are pleased that justice has taken its course and we would like to thank the police and judicial system for all their help and support. As a family we are extremely grateful.”

Vian’s father Shaukat Mangrio said: "The star of my eyes, my beautiful Daughter Vian who had a bright future, whom I loved dearly and will always remain in my heart.
The worst day of my life was when she was brutally murdered without mercy. Today I can't explain all the emotions I am feeling, however I do feel relief that the defendants have been brought to justice.

"For this I would like to thank DCI Stables and the entire police department for their tireless work on the case and supporting me through this very difficult time.

"I regret not being present due to Pakistan being on the red list and seeing the criminals responsible in the eye. I therefore, take refuge in the Almighty that justice has been served."
 
Rabia Shahbaz, 45, was found guilty today (July 1) of a single count of doing an act intended to pervert the course of public justice.

She had stated that Khan was at their family home all day on September 30 last year – when Khan carried out the murders in Burnley, Lancashire.

Shahbaz later claimed she was confused about dates because of stress and upset, combined with a lack of sleep and food, and told the court she thought her husband was working at Tesco that day.


Jurors at Preston Crown Court took less than two hours to dismiss her account.

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A consultant forensic psychiatrist, called by his defence team, said she believed Khan – who was admitted to Ashworth high-security hospital in Merseyside in March – has a psychotic illness and “most likely” has schizophrenia.

However, jurors were told that a partial defence to murder of diminished responsibility was not available to Khan as there was no evidence he had been suffering any mental health problems at the time of the killings.

Before he changed his pleas – and formal guilty verdicts were returned – the defendant applied for the jury to be discharged so that his mental state could be reassessed but trial judge Mr Justice Goss rejected the application.

The judge said: “I have, of course, been watching the defendant very carefully throughout this trial. I have seen the way his demeanour has changed.

“I watched him as his wife gave evidence and the rocking motions ceased entirely as he paid very close attention. For that reason I have no doubt he knows precisely what is going on throughout this trial.”

He has asked for a further medical report on Khan, of Ribble Avenue, Burnley, to be completed ahead of a sentencing date to be fixed.

His wife, also of Ribble Avenue, was bailed ahead of her sentencing date, also to be fixed, as a pre-sentence report was ordered.

Mr Justice Goss told her: “It is a serious offence and it is inevitable that you are going to receive a prison sentence. However, I am going to grant you bail for you to deal with domestic matters.”

Wife of handyman found guilty of lying to police about killer husband's whereabouts
 
He pleaded guilty on the last stage in mental pressure to save his wife! He was unable to see her in court in front of QC!

alas he didn’t knowhe is doing wrong.

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He didn't save her since she was convicted on the same day. He had to admit his "excuse" of a paranormal being doing the killing, he could see the evidence was overwhelming, he plead guilty to have one final piece of control.

I found this statement from the judge very damning. “I watched him as his wife gave evidence and the rocking motions ceased entirely as he paid very close attention. For that reason I have no doubt he knows precisely what is going on throughout this trial.”
 
Not sure if it's sentencing, but there's a court hearing. It says 'Parties need not attend' which I don't think is normal for sentencing.
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The Crown Court
at Preston

Daily Courtroom List for Monday 04 October 2021
FINAL 2
Warning - There are cases within this court list with reporting restrictions.
Any breach of reporting restrictions is punishable by sanctions up to and including imprisonment.

PRESTON
Court 1
- sitting at 11:00 am
The Honourable Mr Justice Goss

For Judgment
T20207513 KHAN Shabaz 04ZL2829720 LNCSM Crown Prosecution Service
Ruling to be handed down. Parties need not attend.

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Double murderer ‘controlled by evil spirits’ loses bid to seek retrial

A last-ditch attempt to seek a retrial by a handyman who murdered a doctor and her 14-year-old daughter has been rejected by a judge.
From the link:
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Khan’s new legal team argued that he may have been actively psychotic at the time and a partial defence to murder of diminished responsibility was now open to him to face a possible retrial.

But prosecutor David McLachlan QC submitted that it was more lies from the defendant who had had his opportunity and “should not be entitled to have another go because he didn’t like it last time”.

On Monday, trial judge Mr Justice Goss ruled there was no sufficient basis to conclude it was an exceptional case where the interests of justice would be met by permitting the pleas to be withdrawn.

Khan will be sentenced on Tuesday, alongside his wife, Rabia Shahbaz, 45, who was found guilty of doing an act intended to pervert the course of public justice, namely giving a false alibi to her husband.

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