UK - (Former prince) Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

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I know it feels that way, but IMO Andrew never had power in the Royal Family. He was a B-lister, always, never truly transcended Randy Andy and Fergie cemented his reputation as essentially frivolous/money grubbing.

I don't believe he was ever given important ceremonial/dignified positions like his siblings were. Just thrown some scraps where he could use his apparent obsession with money and business connections, which none of the other Royals share

JMO

Oh, I think Andrew had lots of power in that family.

Not only was he his mothers favourite child, he was second in line to the British throne for 22 yrs until William was born.

He was considered to be a war hero in the Falklands War and had many honours bestowed upon him until recent events.

IMO, they are all obsessed with money, even King Charles.

Remember him with his grocery bags of cash? What was that about??

No heir to the throne should be waltzing around with bags of cash! How extraordinary!
 
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I'm not sure that it brought the Duchess of Windsor much happiness.
No: I think she and David were shunned by important people, and dwelt in the margins, where they felt flattered by manipulators like the German monster.

I see a pattern, and why Charles wants to clamp down hard on Royal hangers-on.
 
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Oh, I think Andrew had lots of power in that family.

Not only was he his mothers favourite child, he was second in line to the British throne for 22 yrs until William was born.

He was considered to be a war hero in the Falklands War and had many honours bestowed upon him until recent events.

IMO, they are all obsessed with money, even King Charles.

Remember him with his grocery bags of cash? What was that about??

No heir to the throne should be waltzing around with bags of cash! How extraordinary!
He was Trade Ambassador or some such title for his country. That's a decision maker.

jmo
 
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In the email, dated July 12, 2011, Epstein sought legal advice about whether he should open a case against the tabloid, owned by Rupert Murdoch's News International, in New York.

"If you have been following the issues of Rupert Murdoch, and News intl. He closed one of his newspapers in London, after it was caught hacking phone," the email says.

"Well, there is no love lost in the palace for him. They say they have evidence that the NY post hacked my phones, to get to Prince Andrew.


It is unclear whether, by "the Palace", Epstein means Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor or the institution.

Epstein's email was sent two days after News of the World closed down after its owners, News International, admitted the scale of hacking that had been going on.

The company had battled against growing allegations for two years - one of its private investigators and the News of the World's royal editor were jailed in 2007 over a story gleaned from hacking.

 
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Check this out…..

jmail dot world

….emails released by congress.

Did anyone check this out?

What do you think?

Pretty extensive if legit.
 
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He was Trade Ambassador or some such title for his country. That's a decision maker.

jmo
Oddly however, the whole institution of the Monarchy is fancy titles with no authority to make decisions.

JMO
 
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Oddly however, the whole institution of the Monarchy is fancy titles with no authority to make decisions.

JMO
I'm pretty sure he made deals - though I also suspect they were for his own benefit. I don't recall details but I once read up on it. It gave him the excuse to travel to other countries for "trade deals." He was removed from the position, iirc.

I don't care enough about the guy to look it up again, tbh....so imo. He's gross.

jmo
 
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I'm pretty sure he made deals - though I also suspect they were for his own benefit. I don't recall details but I once read up on it. It gave him the excuse to travel to other countries for "trade deals." He was removed from the position, iirc.

I don't care enough about the guy to look it up again, tbh....so imo. He's gross.

jmo
Agree! More pigs at the trough
 
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Did anyone check this out?

What do you think?

Pretty extensive if legit.
Waiting for the more tech inclined posters on the Epstein thread to unravel
 
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The word Pizza is often used in paedo circles to describe the type of young person that is being looked for and they are referred to as toppings. Sick and creepy
 
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Andrew has not committed any crime.

Correction, he has not (yet) been convicted of a crime.

He has neither been found guilty, nor has he been found not guilty (yet) of any of the crimes he has been accused of, or any other crimes he has been associated with/potentially associated with/rumoured to have committed.

Therefore, it is not factually possible for anyone to state whether he has or had not committed any crimes. Only if Andrew is put on trial and exonerated, will it be possible to state that he has not [legally] committed any crimes.
 
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Correction, he has not (yet) been convicted of a crime.

He has neither been found guilty, nor has he been found not guilty (yet) of any of the crimes he has been accused of, or any other crimes he has been associated with/potentially associated with/rumoured to have committed.

Therefore, it is not factually possible for anyone to state whether he has or had not committed any crimes. Only if Andrew is put on trial and exonerated, will it be possible to state that he has not [legally] committed any crimes.

Nor has he been charged after two or more investigations.

Let’s start with has he been charged? Nope.
 
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Nor has he charged after two or more investigations.

Let’s start with has he been charged? Nope.
Protected, that’s why no charges, yet
Similar to many other names, money and influence buys silence, for now
 
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Protected, that’s why no charges, yet
Similar to many other names, money and influence buys silence, for now
He is essentially in internal exile now since his mother is no longer around to protect him and he has exhausted his brother's patience at long last.
 
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He is essentially in internal exile now since his mother is no longer around to protect him and he has exhausted his brother's patience at long last.
Excellent!
 
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Protected, that’s why no charges, yet
Similar to many other names, money and influence buys silence, for now

If there was any solid proof, I believe he would have been charged by now.

If anyone is ‘buying silence’ that is also a crime.

But you need proof.
 
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If there was any solid proof, I believe he would have been charged by now.

If anyone is ‘buying silence’ that is also a crime.

But you need proof.
Don't need proof to shun.

jmo
 
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If you do not have interactions/cross paths with someone, how does shunning them work?

You cannot really avoid someone you’ve never met/known.
 
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If you do not have interactions/cross paths with someone, how does shunning them work?

You cannot really avoid someone you’ve never met/known.
I'm not assuming any of the perps care if I shun them, lol.

I mean elites shunning disgusting elites. They don't need a conviction to keep them out of their circles and influence.

jmo
 

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