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As for the ‘end for the Royal Family’, I suspect that will happen in the not too distant future due to lack of bodies.

With second son gone, William has lost his main line of support as a monarch.

There are many less cousins to step up, will they want to? Etc.

‘You need to be seen to be believed’ is a truism and I doubt it will continue for many more generations.

The cousins are now already wealthy, educated people who may want to lead their own lives.

The world is just a bigger place with much different values and this will just peter out naturally.

If one adds in the anti monarchy sentiment and resentment, it just gets worse.

I’ve always thought that once QE II had died, they (children & grands) should just retire to private life.

MOO, IMO
 
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The immaterial are the immaterial, Starmers recent trade visit to China shows the royalty are not important to trade, Rand Andy used and abused his position , Charles is not his brothers keeper but he's from the same ilk.


He had/ has form.

His past scandals, however, span more than 50 years, beginning at school in the 1970s when he was caught in the girl’s boarding house at Gordonstoun. The incident earned him the nickname “Randy Andy”.


 
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"As well as the Afghan document,
Andrew also seems to have sent the disgraced financier official reports from his visits as a trade envoy to Singapore, Hong Kong and Vietnam,
according to emails in the Epstein files.

Emails in the files raise the possibility Andrew shared further trade documents with Epstein.

One message indicates that a few seconds after sending the reports from the South East Asia visits,
the former prince then sent a second batch of files called 'Overseas bids'.

Sir Vince Cable, who was business secretary at the time, described sharing the (Afghan) briefing as
'appalling behaviour'.

Sir Vince,
who was seen as instrumental in ending Andrew's time as trade envoy,
called for more transparency on Andrew's time as trade envoy."

 
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I don't get it
why she always seemed to be in debt??? 🤔
If you have no discernible source of income, and insist on living the lifestyle of the rich and famous, then massive debt is usually the result!

Andrew and Fergie were perfectly matched, really, as they are both unbelievably, heroically stupid!
 
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"As well as the Afghan document,
Andrew also seems to have sent the disgraced financier official reports from his visits as a trade envoy to Singapore, Hong Kong and Vietnam,
according to emails in the Epstein files.

Emails in the files raise the possibility Andrew shared further trade documents with Epstein.

One message indicates that a few seconds after sending the reports from the South East Asia visits,
the former prince then sent a second batch of files called 'Overseas bids'.

Sir Vince Cable, who was business secretary at the time, described sharing the (Afghan) briefing as
'appalling behaviour'.

Sir Vince,
who was seen as instrumental in ending Andrew's time as trade envoy,
called for more transparency on Andrew's time as trade envoy."


What was the ultimate goal with the financial aspect? That is a serious violation. Andrew didn’t really need the money but maybe he thought if he could get money to JE he would have continued access to JE’s female pool.
 
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What was the ultimate goal with the financial aspect? That is a serious violation. Andrew didn’t really need the money but maybe he thought if he could get money to JE he would have continued access to JE’s female pool.
FWIW, I think Andrew did need the money.

jmo
 
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FWIW, I think Andrew did need the money.

jmo

Agreed. He lived a lavish lifestyle. And Fergie, so common, she trolloped herself out to anything for cash.
 
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Agreed. He lived a lavish lifestyle. And Fergie, so common, she trolloped herself out to anything for cash.
They were somehow unable to live on what I assume were generous conditions. The appearance is they were constantly on the prowl for funding. Honestly, they are pathetic.

jmo
 
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FWIW, I think Andrew did need the money.

jmo

They didn’t pay any rent and he was still getting money from his parents. Everything is relative though.
 
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They didn’t pay any rent and he was still getting money from his parents. Everything is relative though.
Rich people can need money if they have debts they cannot pay from something like fast-living and overextending their budget, gambling, addictions, etc. Someone can have every advantage in the world and still be in debt and need to keep scrambling, scamming, borrowing, making deals....selling access.

my opinion
 
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The government is under pressure to release documents from Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor’s time as trade envoy, as it emerged it blocked the release of some files on “health and safety grounds”…

In other cases, his requests on Andrew’s time as trade envoy have been refused on the basis that the records were commercially sensitive, a risk to national security or constituted exempt royal communications.

Police are now reviewing whether revelations that he shared documents from his time in the trade role with Jeffrey Epstein, the paedophile financier, could constitute misconduct in a public office.

The information has put the government under renewed pressure to be transparent about his prior roles, with freedom of information requests about his activities during the period being repeatedly refused.

 
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The grand old duke of york
he had twelve million quid
he gave it away to someone else
for something he never did (apparently due to him eating pizza at the time of the offence)

Allegedly imho
 

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