• #181
Does he hire a solicitor? How does this proceed?
 
  • #182
Does AMW even need a passport?
Dubai would probably welcome him with open arms though why is a mystery since he has zilch to offer anyone.
Sarah is probably paving the way for him. lol
imo
Charles will set him up for life...as long as he never returns to England.
 
  • #183

'British public cheer Andrew's arrest with a smile and relief'​


It must be unnerving to feel the level of animosity toward the royal family by so many Britons for their long history of looking the other way when the whole world is aware of the drama. Listening to random Londoners today the consensus appears to be a fatigue having a royal family. It wouldn't be the first country to consider getting rid of them. No matter how popular and what a draw they are for the tourist trade. They are an anachronism in today's world. An expensive one.
 
  • #184
Yes, it’s true. Charles I was beheaded in 1649 during the English civil war. Parliament vs. the monarchy. I recently read a book about it.

Here’s a link:

And his successor Oliver Cromwell, who died from sepsis, was dug up and hanged and his head stuck on top of a pike at Westminster for 20 years. Talk about revenge.
 
  • #185

Wow. This is interesting. So glad his mother isn't alive to see this. Would she have been able to stop it? I wonder if he would have been arrested previously, and she did intervene?
I wish she were still alive so she’d have to face the consequences of coddling her favorite child. Philip too.

The statement by King Charles, that’s world class shade. I do not acknowledge you as my brother, I will not lift a pinky to help you, MY family does not include YOU. How to say “you are dead to me” without saying you are dead to me.

I think he’s been 100% done with Andrew for a long time and was all too happy to strip his titles and now throw him to the wolves (and I think William is made of absolute steel and will tolerate even less). Take Andrew out of the line of succession.
 
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His mother always overprotected Andrew. He got away with too much.
Yes, he was her only real weakness, but it's one shared by a lot of mothers where a golden child, especially a son, is concerned. Over on the Mumsnet forums, the question is posed from time to time about precisely this scenario: if your child committed a really serious offence, such as rape or murder, would you hand them over to the police? A significant proportion of women say no, not under any circumstances, regardless of what he had done.
 
  • #187
Imagine being arrested on birthday 🎈
And on the day he reaches state pension age to boot .....

I suppose this officially makes him a dirty old man.
 
  • #188
Charles will set him up for life...as long as he never returns to England.
He’ll probably have to contain him somewhere. If he doesn’t go to prison or his sentence ends before he dies, he’s too much of a security risk to be left to run free range.
 
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Yes, he looks traumatised and shocked.
 
  • #191
I don't completely understand the charges - could they possibly be upgraded to treason?
 
  • #192
Yes, he was her only real weakness, but it's one shared by a lot of mothers where a golden child, especially a son, is concerned. Over on the Mumsnet forums, the question is posed from time to time about precisely this scenario: if your child committed a really serious offence, such as rape or murder, would you hand them over to the police? A significant proportion of women say no, not under any circumstances, regardless of what he had done.
Thinking about this, I wonder if the late Queen realised towards the end of her life that she had cocked up with regard to Andrew and agreed to him paying £12m to Giuffre as a way of kicking the can down the road until after her death. In other words, did she realise there would be more to come out about Andrew and deliberately leave it all as a poisoned chalice to Charles to sort out.
 
  • #193
Unprecedented that the man who was second in line to the throne arrested at least in modern times.
Apparently in the UK no one is above the law, even royalty: here in America, well that is not the case- obviously.
 
  • #194
Thinking about this, I wonder if the late Queen realised towards the end of her life that she had cocked up with regard to Andrew and agreed to him paying £12m to Giuffre as a way of kicking the can down the road until after her death. In other words, did she realise there would be more to come out about Andrew and deliberately leave it all as a poisoned chalice to Charles to sort out.
I think that's a stretch.
 
  • #195
08:19
Over the past hour, we’ve seen a number of unmarked vehicles arrive at Royal Lodge. At least two were driven by uniformed police officers.

The BBC understands that inside Royal Lodge, the search continues as Thames Valley Police work through the royal residence.

A number of regular cars have also driven in and out of the white gates behind us.

The arduous task of storing and logging the evidence, assigning evidential serial numbers, and creating an inventory of seized items is likely to continue for hours and possibly days.

Thames Valley Police tells us it has nothing to add to their statement yesterday.

BBC News - Police arrive at Royal Lodge to continue search as Andrew released under investigation - latest
 
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Apparently in the UK no one is above the law, even royalty: here in America, well that is not the case- obviously.
Let's be honest here - they took so long to act here that he seriously ran the risk of being publicly lynched so they had very little choice in the end

but don't believe for one second that "two tier" justice does not exist in this country
 
  • #199

"It came as the Epstein Files revealed
that Andrew has been on the radar of US law enforcement, including the FBI, for approaching 15 years.

Marcus Johnstone,
a leading criminal defence lawyer specialising in sex crime,
believes that Andrew's arrest will allow detectives to hunt for evidence related to sexual offences,
including allegations Andrew allowed Epstein sex trafficking victims into Buckingham Palace.

'Investigators will be using this as the basis to scrutinise his relationship with Epstein even further,
and in doing so build a case that Andrew participated in some way in Epstein's sex trafficking operation."
 
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I think that's a stretch.
Yes, it may be, but I'm also thinking that the Giuffre situation blew up when the late Queen was around 90 years of age and becoming noticeably frailer. Perhaps she just didn't have the strength to deal with it by the time it all blew up. Leaving it to her successor might have made sense, although probably nobody knew at the time of Charles' succession that he was himself ill with cancer.
 

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