Found Deceased UK - Gaynor Lord was last seen in Norwich city centre on London Street heading towards Norwich Cathedral, 2:35 pm, 8 December 2023

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She certainly looks like she has done whatever she was hurrying to do earlier in this live capture.
 
  • #362
She looks fairly calm in that most recent footage. Taken at 4.01 - wasn't she supposed to be seen doing yoga at that same time, though?
 
  • #363
She looks fairly calm in that most recent footage. Taken at 4.01 - wasn't she supposed to be seen doing yoga at that same time, though?
Yeah she seems carefree, strolling down the high street browsing windows. IMO not rushing off to complete suicide
 
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The video shows the 55-year-old walking along St Augustine's Street in Norwich last Friday just after 4pm and is the last sighting of her on film before she went missing.

Detectives also revealed they had received 30 calls from members of the public offering information in response to their appeals for details about her movements.

Norfolk Police also said its dive teams searching the River Wensum were struggling with visibility as low as 1ft under the surface in water temperatures of just 4C (39F).

The force said it was also contending with leaves, branches, debris and the flow of the river, which was 'the biggest problem because there's been so much rainfall'.
 
  • #365
I don’t really understand why the media frenzy have picked up this case.

All signs unfortunately point that she has completed suicide in the river MOO

I think the media frenzy just makes the police job harder here - it’s not going to change the outcome for Gaynors family sadly.

The media plays a key role in some missing persons cases EG Sarah Everard but ones like this where it looks pretty clear where she will be found I don’t really see what they are achieving by getting involved.
 
  • #366
She looks fairly calm in that most recent footage. Taken at 4.01 - wasn't she supposed to be seen doing yoga at that same time, though?
The park is a 9min walk according to Google, so still a possibility the witness saw her "around 4pm"
 
  • #367
14:31Antony Thrower

Three types of SONAR being used in search of the River Wensum​


In a statement, Norfolk Constabulary revealed three types of SONAR are been used from a boat in the River Wensum to search areas, before dive teams are sent in.





However, they warned the "irregular and largely natural nature of the terrain with uneven banks, trees, various depths and obstructions" is hindering efforts.





As a result, images being beamed back to the boat were often unclear and difficult to recognise depending on the angle.

14:35Antony Thrower

Dive teams operating in near zero visibility and near freezing temperatures​


In the statement, Chief Superintendent Buckley went into more detail on the challenges facing the dive teams.
He said: “We have been speaking to the dive team on site and visibility in the River Wensum is between zero and one foot underwater with temperatures as low as 4 degrees C.
“As soon as you reach one foot in front of you, visibility goes and then there’s obviously leaves, branches, debris, and the flow of the river to contend with, which is the biggest problem because there’s been so much rainfall.
“They’re swimming against the flow of the river, which is very difficult, and searching with next to zero visibility, and in a systematic manner. It’s very time consuming because it’s a large area to search and we must make sure we covered every feasible inch of water.”

 
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14:33
Gaynor Lord's behaviour was 'out of character' in the time before she disappeared, police say

The spokesperson continued: 'At the moment the CCTV is telling us that she left work and she made her way over a period of time to the river where she was seen.

'Nobody has seen her go into the water but we know she ended up in the park. At the moment there's nothing else that the CCTV has shown us about who she may have spoken to, any interactions she might have had.

'Some of this behaviour is out of character. We can't explain some of her behaviour that day.

'We're working closely with the family, with friends, with anybody else that may have had contact with her in recent days and weeks to try to understand what might have happened.'

He added: 'We're supporting the friends and family as close as we can. People are very shocked by what's happened and nobody knows why she's done what she's done.

'We will just have to work to see if we can find it out.'

14:29
Police pursuing leads about missing mother's 'behaviour' in the lead up to her disappearance

Asked why police were so sure the missing mother had entered the River Wentsum, the spokesperson added: 'There are a number of lines of inquiry that we are pursuing but everything that we know is pointing to a high probability that Gaynor went into the water.

'That would be from the CCTV, from the very limited witnesses we've got available to us and other lines of inquiry that we are pursuing about Gaynor's behaviour in the lead up to her disappearance.

'At the moment the river is a really key factor for us.

'That's not to say that other specialist police teams aren't working on other lines of inquiry, because they are, but at the moment you are seeing that intensive effort around the searching of the water and the parks around this area.'

14:22
Police spokesperson says 'working hypothesis' is that Gaynor Lord entered a river

A representative of Norfolk Police has issued an update on the search for Gaynor Lord as the hunt continues for the missing mother along the banks of the River Wentsum, where her clothes were found.

Speaking to reporters at the riverside on Thursday afternoon, he said the 'working hypothesis' remains that the 55-year-old entered the water.

He told reporters: 'The investigation is still very much focused on the river. Our working hypothesis remains that Gaynor is in the river, even though we are exploring other lines, as you'd expect us to keep a very open mind.

'That's why you've seen quite a considerable intensive searches of the river today.

'A specialist team from Lincolnshire is also assisting us so we're putting sonar equipment across the river at the moment which is quite detailed and allowing us to target divers to where there may be objects.

'Equally it's very very challenging. The river is very, very full of water with all the rain, full of lots of debris, the divers can see about one foot in front of them, so it's a very extraordinary challenging environment for them to work in.

'It's slow and methodical at the moment. It will take a couple of days for us to be content with what we've done. It may even be longer.'

 
  • #369
I don’t really understand why the media frenzy have picked up this case.

All signs unfortunately point that she has completed suicide in the river MOO

I think the media frenzy just makes the police job harder here - it’s not going to change the outcome for Gaynors family sadly.

The media plays a key role in some missing persons cases EG Sarah Everard but ones like this where it looks pretty clear where she will be found I don’t really see what they are achieving by getting involved.

I agree. I think it's really unnecessary in this case. Not nice for her family.
 
  • #370
Hi everyone has been a while since I’ve posted having been watching this unfold and the cctv footage yes it appears that Gaynor is hurrying to something but it also looks like she is hurrying Away from something as well she appears more relaxed the close she gets to her usual clocking off time imo
 
  • #371
I don’t really understand why the media frenzy have picked up this case.

All signs unfortunately point that she has completed suicide in the river MOO

I think the media frenzy just makes the police job harder here - it’s not going to change the outcome for Gaynors family sadly.

The media plays a key role in some missing persons cases EG Sarah Everard but ones like this where it looks pretty clear where she will be found I don’t really see what they are achieving by getting involved.
The unusual circumstances probably. Leaving work early, rushing across the city, unaccounted time within the cathedral and then shattered clothes and belongings. People tend to keep their clothes on to assist with suicide by water.

To me it looks more like an accident, jumping in the water to save a drowning animal maybe??
 
  • #372
Norfolk Police have release further CCTV footage (of Gaynor's progress along St. Augustine's Street). Her demeanour appears very different to the earlier footage, IMO.

Norfolk Police Facebook page
judging by the manhole covers seen in the CCTV, I think she stopped to look up at this shop - Custom T-Shirt Printing.

 
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Two things are sure Gaynor didn’t want to be at work or go home…imo
 
  • #375
The unusual circumstances probably. Leaving work early, rushing across the city, unaccounted time within the cathedral and then shattered clothes and belongings. People tend to keep their clothes on to assist with suicide by water.

To me it looks more like an accident, jumping in the water to save a drowning animal maybe??
This is the odd thing here. How common is it for suicides to undress before entering the water? As you say, keeping your clothes on would weigh you down and help you drown.
 
  • #376
The unusual circumstances probably. Leaving work early, rushing across the city, unaccounted time within the cathedral and then shattered clothes and belongings. People tend to keep their clothes on to assist with suicide by water.

To me it looks more like an accident, jumping in the water to save a drowning animal maybe??
Actually a good idea, but the "drowning animal" is too much of coincidence to me, when GL earlier that afternoon disappeared from her workplace, visited a Cathedral ground and did something like Yoga in the park.
 
  • #377
She doesn't seem to notice, that her scarf is almost touching the ground ....
Yeah
Not to mention previous distracted behaviour:
almost being hit by a car,
not wearing a coat in December....

JMO
 
  • #378
Yeah she seems carefree, strolling down the high street browsing windows. IMO not rushing off to complete suicide
What does someone look like going to commit suicide? I think we're projecting how we'd imagine ourselves to look. This is from an NHS doc on seeing the signs:

"Sudden sense of calm – A sudden sense of calm and happiness after being extremely depressed can mean that the person has made a decision to attempt suicide."
 
  • #379
It's the sort of case where you desperately hope it's something else - a faked death for insurance purposes, something else that's not been thought of - but you know that the river being there is leading to it not being so. I feel so much for her children and family.
 
  • #380
Maybe in the hope that less clothes would mean hypothermia setting in quicker than necessarily drowning? I’m not sure how drowning works personally (it’s not something I choose to put much thought into as I’m scared of rivers/the sea etc)
 

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