GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #7

[pollypi]

She's still been cleaning the home for him though:

Judge: Did you carry on cleaning there?
A. Yes. I worked there until recently.

I hope the cleaner comes back in with her mop and shoves it where the sun don't shine!

 

[cottonweaver]

And then there's this quote where he acknowledges that his MG symptoms are something that is "brought on", ie not always there

It’s not known what brings my Myasthenia gravis on.”

Oh totally agree. I've always been dubious about his particular degree of severity/remission , never disputed he was diagnosed with it.
I do think his condition must be worse at the moment though, since incarceration, stress and tiredness are said to be factors in exacerbating it.

That said, maybe Bishop can tell us whether his type of psycho experiences stress in the way most people do? I really don't know

 

[cottonweaver]

I think they meant IS had been ill since they were 7/8 rather than since IS was 7/8. Though IS being ill as a youngster and getting used to the attention and benefits it might result in wouldn't surprise me either.

Ah thank you - I couldn't find the actual page. Do you know who said it CP? Moll?

ETA S'ok - Alyce has posted the facts

 

[Cherwell]

I thought that too. It might have been ambiguous but children refer things to their own age rather than going back to their parents' childhood, I think.

It wouldn't have been ambiguous in court, only in reported speech.

"He's been ill since he was 7 or 8"
vs
"He's been ill since I was 7 or 8"

 

[icemaiden65]

I hope the cleaner comes back in with her mop and shoves it where the sun don't shine!

Excuse ME Polly - my words exactly a few days ago - snort! So that would be two mops then?

 

[BlueMosaic]

I'd rather have too much than too little to be honest! Duplicates don't worry me one iota.

Have appointment for hair chop at 1pm - my hairdresser is gonna love it when I say to forget a blow dry, pay my bill and then run out of the hair salon with wet hair to get back here!

Hope a good chop anyway.

Am doing some early morning "catch up" teaching this week, but getting back at 11.30 am is fine. Meeting at 2 today so will need to catch up.

I'm sure many of us approach the subject of chronic illnesses from personal experience-ourselves or others. It's IS's feeling of entitlement to a lifestyle he would never have had otherwise that sticks in the throat. I like the consultant's line about gaining strength from rest, which he (IS) seems to have had plenty of.

I know plenty of good men as friends, family, colleagues and students but with Helen's wedding plans (was it a kind of distraction from the reality of IS and the boys?) I can't stop thinking of the old Nancy Astor lines, "I married beneath me. All women do."

 

[Duchy]

Famous people with MG

David Niven
Aristotle Onassis
Sir Lawrence Olivier
Phil Silvers (actor – Sgt. Bilko)

 

[Interested Bystander]

IB, I think you would have made a better witness than Pinto Bean.

Needless to say the Neurologist has a wealth of book learned skill and patient feedback but never having suffered from the disease he is not quite the expert one expects him to be. He can only generalise. There are physical, neurological markers and antibody levels that will tell them quite a lot but they can never really know how the patient feels and I think it would be fair to say that we all function at different levels. I was self medicating (even when in hospital) because I was the only one who knew exactly how I felt. It is not often one hears that a patient in hospital is given the drugs and then told to use them when they feel it is appropriate.

Whatever I post here makes no difference to the fact that he would have been able to murder and dispose of HB and I am sure he did. He would only need to gauge when his 'medically induced' strength was at its best.

 

[Florrie]

I think what has really been confirmed is that IS would have had normal strength and been quite able to move a body.

I can accept that working may have been difficult if the condition is affected by stress. Then again what could be more stressful than disposing of the body of a woman you apparently love.


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[Moll]

So far the defence witnesses haven't done much for IS, have they?

 

[jenspired]

While there's a break in trial reporting (thanks for all the posts) I thought I'd share this lovely photo of Helen and Boris from her blog:

Also, an interesting tweet:

Hoping the jury make the right decision next week!

Oh what a tangled web we weave

 

[Tortoise]

[FONT=&quot]Trimmer: “It doesn’t affect the brain and emotionally how you may react to things? “It doesn’t affect how you’re telling the truth or not?” Dr Pinto: “That is correct”

Brilliant.[/FONT]

 

[Florrie]

The defence haven't really delivered anything have they? I suspect they have struggled massively and know a lost cause when they see one.


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[pollypi]

Excuse ME Polly - my words exactly a few days ago - snort! So that would be two mops then?

Sorry I must have missed that. As many mops that will fit up then!

 

[Jennibee]

Speaking of little Boris:


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This makes me cry :cry:


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[neteditor]

Sorry I must have missed that. As many mops that will fit up then!

What? Alongside the tiny mobiles?

 

[pollypi]

Ah thank you - I couldn't find the actual page. Do you know who said it CP? Moll?

ETA S'ok - Alyce has posted the facts

I know I am late with this flu doesn't help But I think the post is in the first thread post number 1739

Rereading this post I think the post may have already been posted by Alyce.............. I think its time to go back to bed this flu is confusing my brain! just pleased it wasn't so bad yesterday so I could fully appreciate Nick and Joe!

 

[Interested Bystander]

They have been out a long time, I wonder what the problem is, if any?

 

[Tortoise]

Was Dr Pinto brought in because Stewart smiled at the police officer?

Why didn't the defence address whether he would have been capable of lifting the manhole cover and dragging Helen on a duvet?

 

[Tortoise]

They have been out a long time, I wonder what the problem is, if any?

They said back at 2pm IB.