UK - Holly Wells, 10, & Jessica Chapman, 10, murdered, Soham, 4 Aug 2002

[Casshew]

Failing to reach a verdict?? seriously, how hard could it be? The guy says they died in his bathroom. :fuming: :fuming:

 

[Doyle]

Ian Huntley has been found guilty of the murders of Soham schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3312551.stm

 

[Casshew]

YES!!!!!!

Thank you Lord... Christmas came early!

 

[mushyb]

Huntley: Life for murdering girls
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/12/17/uk.soham/index.html

Huntley 'targeted young girls'
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/europe/12/17/uk.soham.previous/index.html

yes, thank god for the families. the second article i posted made me sick.

 

[forbidn2u2]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/121703_APworld_girlslain.html

(12/17/03 - LONDON) — A former school caretaker was convicted Wednesday of murdering two 10-year-old girls and sentenced to two life terms in a case that attracted huge media attention in Britain.

Ian Huntley had denied murdering the girls, claiming Holly Wells accidentally drowned in his bathtub when he was helping her stop a nosebleed and that he apparently smothered Jessica Chapman while trying to stop her screams.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Originally posted by forbidn2u2
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/news/121703_APworld_girlslain.html

(12/17/03 - LONDON) — A former school caretaker was convicted Wednesday of murdering two 10-year-old girls and sentenced to two life terms in a case that attracted huge media attention in Britain.

Ian Huntley had denied murdering the girls, claiming Holly Wells accidentally drowned in his bathtub when he was helping her stop a nosebleed and that he apparently smothered Jessica Chapman while trying to stop her screams.

Isn't this from the Soham thread?

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I'm glad too, but how on earth could they just give this guy 20 years??

 

[janier62]

God bless Holly and Jessica,s families tonight .

And may Ian Huntley rot in jail for the rest of his life .

 

[Casshew]

The guy only got 20 years!

 

[Hugh]

Cashew

No he got 2 life sentences which is mandatory in Murder cases here. the tariff will be set by a high court judge.

There are two guidlines that apply. Multiple (2 or more) killings which show a large degree of pre planning start at 30 years, the last guy sentenced under this guidline got 50 years.

the second has a child element and a sexual element in it this will draw a "Full Life" sentence which means no release ever.
There are only 20 or so prisoners in our system with full life and I believe Huntley will be one of them.

 

[Hugh]

I have put an explanation of the sentencing over on the thread higher up

 

[Hugh]

Ian Huntley had been investigated 10 (yes 10) times by Humberside police for 3 rape allegations and 7 cases of having sex with underage girls.
As he was never convicted of any of these crimes they were nhot entered on the national police Computer that is used to perform background checks on workers who want to be employed around children.

despite this history he was able to get employment as a school caretaker. I am not sure how much of this you will get in the USA/Canada now the case is over but it is at the heart of the case.

Any decent police intelligence system would have had Huntkey banged up years ago and Holly and Jessica would still be with us.

It is High time that the UK had a national police force, we are only the size of say California and have 26 county forces that do not seem to speak to each other. Heads will roll over this starting with the chief constable of Humberside who was on TV last night trying to blame "inadequate systems".

 

[Doyle]

Hopefully you do get some reform Hugh... Unfortunately, it takes a tragedy to get action.

As over here, and Alphonso Rodriguez, who allegedly kidnapped and probably murdered Dru Sjodin, a convicted sex offender, kidnapper,rapist, was released from prison and 4 months later committed this crime.

Balancing civil rights for people, and danger to other people is indeed very difficult.

here is some of what is going on over here..
Sex offenders in Iowa fight housing restriction
http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Central/12/14/sex.offender.challenge.ap/index.html

 

[Doyle]

The police must keep better records, the government has said amid calls for the vetting system to be overhauled.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3330827.stm

The head of the police force blamed for mistakes that allowed Ian Huntley to get a job as a school caretaker in Soham was under growing pressure to resign last night.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=474596

 

[Doyle]

Soham: A dreadful journey from innocence to horror and, eventually, to justice
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=474291

 

[AussieSim]

I know Hugh its disgusting.

A fantastic teacher who got caught smoking pot in the sixties can't get clearance to teach in a school, yet creeps like Huntley slip through the net.

Its bloody disgusting, and something needs to change.

Aussie

 

[Doyle]

The parents of murdered schoolgirl Holly Wells have appealed to prison bosses to keep Maxine Carr behind bars.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-12987806,00.html

 

[Casshew]

Good for them!

That woman knew what happened right from the start yet did not turn her boyfriend in or in anyway try to end the anguish of the girls parents in helping locate theire daughter's bodies.

I really don't know if the parents will have any influence at all, but what they are saying needs to be said.

 

[Doyle]

Police deleted details of a rape charge against Ian Huntley without considering whether the information should be kept, the Bichard Inquiry has heard.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3528135.stm

 

[WasBlind]

For Holly & Jessica

You will not be forgotten.
With love and hope, Lanie