Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #3 *ARREST*

[jamjim]

Raglan Street is where someone lives? Or close to the park?

Sounds as though they are speaking to PR's neighbours.

 

[Deufin]

Raglan Street is where someone lives? Or close to the park?

I believe the man they have under arrest lives on Raglan St

 

[Officer Dibble]

I can’t post a link because it’s not MSN, but it’s been bugging me what particular kind of sports outfit he is wearing in the cctv as the socks/ shorts combo are distinctive. At first I thought boxing or football but I’ve just seen a photo a mental health charity posted about a charity run in January. They are based on Beverley Road. Seeing the outfits made me realise there’s a very good chance he’s in running gear.

So maybe to fool the wife he was going for a run?

 

[cheekychap]

Metal sheets on his door are being erectted.

 

[Chester]

Raglan Street is where someone lives? Or close to the park?

It's where PR lives.

 

[jamjim]

Police are using what looks like a camera to check drainpipes down Raglan Street.

 

[mrjitty]

Am i correct in thinking that his P.A.C.E clock refers only to questioning and detention on the suspicion of abduction?
If he was released today then immediately arrested on suspicion of murder...seperate charge-new P.A.C.E clock?

As a general rule you cannot game the system via nominal charges and continuously rearresting people.

That is exactly what happens in authoritarian countries

The High Court was not born yesterday and does not allow arbitary detention of citizens

 

[Officer Dibble]

Have you seen something new? I can't seem to find what you are referring to?

Cags (I think) saw ITV news live last night and they spoke to a family member of the suspect

 

[Officer Dibble]

I haven't posted on here before as I've been hoping and hoping that poor Libby will still be found alive. The fact the police are using infra red cameras is giving me new hope. Someone mentioned trafficking as a possibility, is it possible the chap in the cctv was actually waiting for someone else to arrive and help him snatch Libby, maybe even another woman, might be an accomplice gets in the front seat and not Libby?

I'm really hoping she is still alive too, and you make a very valid point about trafficking. Money would be involved in that too.

 

[suzyjackson]

Police are using what looks like a camera to check drainpipes down Raglan Street.

Is that the rainwater pipes they're checking? What kind of thing would end up in there?

 

[Chester]

Bude Park is 3.6 miles from where LS was last seen. I don't recall any reports of police searching that far out as of yet but I may be wrong..

The car park looks convenient for privacy late at night. Other than that the area looks very open, with minimal tree coverage in places. Hard to imagine a body laying undiscovered for 10 days.

 

[jessie]

Bude Park is 3.6 miles from where LS was last seen. I don't recall any reports of police searching that far out as of yet but I may be wrong..

Hi, again my post may get lost/ignored but I asked last night how anyone could access Oak Road playing field after midnight as it looks like there are gates (locked?).
As well is it possible to drive all the way down to the 'benches CSI are examining' ? How is it possible to get a recalcitrant possibly inebriated person down to the benches area? I am struggling with this so TIA if you could help,
Edit to add - I am struggling to understand why all the searches in Oak Road playing field.

 

[Atoz]

Is that the rainwater pipes they're checking? What kind of thing would end up in there?

His mobile phone?

 

[Caroclaud]

Would helicopters and lots of police the adequate response to someone in the park finding a body? I hope to God that isn’t the case, just wondering if that would be part of the procedure of something like that.

As the clock is ticking down rapidly IF Bude Park is connected to LS then I am sure that helicopters/ large police presence would be necessary to speed everything up and obtain the evidence/forensics needed.

I’m not sure what happens if they don’t process evidence in time and the 9.11pm deadline is reached, does the suspect walk free as there are no more extensions?

 

[suzyjackson]

I'm really hoping she is still alive too, and you make a very valid point about trafficking. Money would be involved in that too.

Traffickers really don't kidnap middle class university students who will be missed within hours. I will eat every hat in Hull if it's trafficking

 

[Deufin]

Is that the rainwater pipes they're checking? What kind of thing would end up in there?

Bit of a wild guess, but maybe he’s thrown something up there thinking it’s one place the police will never think to look, and he could potentially recover it later.

Would have to be something relatively small - maybe jewellery?

 

[Ched]

Hull Live Facebook , live report video

 

[KING Charles]

Live as police helicopter, cars and officers descend on park

Not looking good.

Oh dear! I posted on here several days ago that a police helicopter had been hovering 0ver the Bransholme area.

 

[Joolz1975]

The car park looks convenient for privacy late at night. Other than that the area looks very open, with minimal tree coverage in places. Hard to imagine a body laying undiscovered for 10 days.

Weapon discarded maybe or a personal item.

But wouldn't they be sending in forensics for that rather than helicopters and lots of officers.

 

[mrjitty]

Interesting thought.

I think ( am not 100% on this ) that if he was released at 96 hours and then immediately re arrested on suspicion of murder, that would not work. Any half decent defence solicitor would argue that the police must have already had some evidence to bring this new charge before the 96 hours expired and that they should therefore have questioned the suspect re this evidence during the 96 hour time frame.

Likewise, if he was released on bail ( so still under investigation in connection with LS ) and then brought back in on a murder charge ( as opposed to just abduction ) I think they would not be allowed any further question time and would have to go directly to charging him.

However, if he was released without any charge, free to go, then yes, am sure he could be brought back and charged with the more serious crime of murder and the clock starts again.

+1

I suspect the answer entirely depends on whether there is a break through in the case.

IMO the High Court will take an extremely dim view of immediately rearresting people based on the same evidence as before. That's the kind of arbitary detention that the rules exist to prevent.

On the other hand, if a body is discovered and it implicates the defendant, one could imagine arresting on murder charges and questioning to be entirely appropriate.

Incidentally when I was in Malaysia many years ago, this is exactly what was routinely happening. People would be held to the statutory time limit, freed by the High Court on application by their lawyer, and then essentially rearrested on the Court room steps. Pure Kafka!