Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #6 *ARREST*

[jamjim]

10:46
Officers have now broken off into two groups for the search
Police have split up into two groups to resume the search. One is on a track to the left of the main entrance and the other group is covering the outside of the play area.

Libby Squire latest as search for Hull student enters 14th day

 

[aworldofmadness]

Libby Squire latest as search for Hull student enters 14th day

Officers cutting vegetation video etc

I gotta applaud the HDM for their persistent reporting. I am, however, amused that they seemingly mistake strimmers for chainsaws.

I really hope they find what happened to LS soon.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Anyone got any idea what the Police are looking for (if anything specific)?

I just don't get why they seem to cut down a section of vegetation, do a quick rake or use a strimmer that might destroy small items! and then move on to the next area. I would've thought if they were looking for something specific they would be on their hands and knees doing a fingertip search?

 

[jamjim]

My gut feeling is that she's not in the park, I think it's more likely she's in the water.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

This entire search seems like it’s fizzling out more and more by the day. Hardly any searches are being conducted now. Yes there’s a few police officers searching bushes and overgrown hedges but really? There’s hardly anything happening and I am almost convinced this case is going to be shoved under the carpet and will be a repeat of the Claudia Lawrence case almost 10 years ago. I don’t believe PR knows Libby’s whereabouts nor did he kill her. They really do not have anything solid on him at all in regards to the LB disappearance and unfortunately it does seem like the most likely scenario is that Libby has fallen to her death and is in the water.

The police can only go on evidence, they can't pursue cases when the leads dry up and that is what happened in the Claudia Lawrence case.
I think they are trying very hard to recover some evidence from the park to progress the case and they must be convinced she ended up in the park. We don't know what else they are doing. They could be reviewing more CCTV etc.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Anyone got any idea what the Police are looking for (if anything specific)?

I just don't get why they seem to cut down a section of vegetation, do a quick rake or use a strimmer that might destroy small items! and then move on to the next area. I would've thought if they were looking for something specific they would be on their hands and knees doing a fingertip search?

They can't do a finger tip search in the brambles? Personally, I think they are looking for possessions or a weapon. If they knew what the suspect was wearing when he went out and those clothes were not found at his house when they searched - it could be something like that. That would mean they knew the size of the items they are looking for too.

 

[yoyo1]

We don’t know if he had a criminal history ? Do we ?

I read a news report which included either freinds or relatives in Poland expressing there surprise at his possible involvement and saying that he didnt have any criminal record in Poland.

 

[Zazie]

The flashes of the indicators.
When you use the remote central locking buttons on the key on those cars, you can unlock and lock the vehicle. When you lock or unlock it, the indicators will flash just once which is normal. If you keep pressing the buttons on the key it will keep flashing the indicators once for every time the button is pressed. If you press it 4 times, lights flash 4 times. He must have pressed the key button repeatedly to get the indicators to flash more than once. It's not possible to ascertain if he is locking or unlocking the car based on the indicator flashes.

The repeat clicking might suggest he's nervous, rather than operating on automatic pilot.

 

[hitthenick]

Anyone got any idea what the Police are looking for (if anything specific)?

I just don't get why they seem to cut down a section of vegetation, do a quick rake or use a strimmer that might destroy small items! and then move on to the next area. I would've thought if they were looking for something specific they would be on their hands and knees doing a fingertip search?

I have absolutely no idea what the police are doing, considering there's no search dogs, I doubt they're looking for a body. It would stink by now and dogs would pick that scent up very quickly. If they were searching for a body, there'd be loads more police there I'd have thought.

I'm of the feeling they won't find anything at all relevant in any of the park now.

 

[suzyjackson]

Anyone got any idea what the Police are looking for (if anything specific)?

I just don't get why they seem to cut down a section of vegetation, do a quick rake or use a strimmer that might destroy small items! and then move on to the next area. I would've thought if they were looking for something specific they would be on their hands and knees doing a fingertip search?

Tbh I think they are looking for a body, any small item of evidence is unlikely to be of much use now after all this time and bad weather. They must be fairly sure they are looking in the right place to keep coming back each day

JMO

 

[wowiezowie]

The repeat clicking might suggest he's nervous, rather than operating on automatic pilot.

On some cars you have to press the unlock button twice to open the passenger side door, seems to me that’s what happened.

 

[Curiousobserver]

The repeat clicking might suggest he's nervous, rather than operating on automatic pilot.

In my car I have it set so one click opens just the driver's door and two clicks opens all the doors. The flashing looks very similar. If you click and don't open a door in 20 seconds they re-lock, so if I am not sure I often click a couple of times as I approach the car. He was likely just trying to unlock all of his doors

 

[mrjitty]

In my car I have it set so one click opens just the driver's door and two clicks opens all the doors. The flashing looks very similar. If you click and don't open a door in 20 seconds they re-lock, so if I am not sure I often click a couple of times as I approach the car. He was likely just trying to unlock all of his doors

I often click multiple times as well

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I think we can rule out criminal mastermind when he got captured with the victim getting into his car on CCTV

Doesn't the fact that he parked in that spot suggest whatever happened next wasn't premeditated? He must have considered that there might be CCTV on a business premises, and he sat bang opposite where it would be.

Going back to the bench in the park, and the evidence markers that were placed around there in a fairly short space of time (I think CSI were there 90 mins). Why on earth would they have done that? Is it possible PR told them something happened there? (I'm sure we've discussed this but just revisiting!)

 

[Ched]

Video report at park by reporter Libby Squire latest as search for Hull student enters 14th day

 

[Steve0000]

I wish we had some smaller details.

-The initial taxi driver from Welly; how he explained how Libby was, coherent, mood, actions etc.
-"Distressed" sitting on the bench. In what context? People are used to seeing drunk students and others around there, most vehicles would not stop over a girl just sitting on a bench. Can falling over on the bench be described as distressed or simply drunk? There is no explanation as to exactly what is meant by her actions being "distressed"

There is no evidence of intruders or people spotted around her house to make her leave without entry. Nor do I think her leaving to find some other students or place to go to is plausible. Just because one is a student doesn't mean they know all the others and from accounts, Libby is reserved and this isn't what she would do.

I believe the most simplistic version is either she lost her keys and went to wait in a safer area on the bench or she possibly went to get some food at a takeaway as most drunk people do and it's likely after Welly her and her friends get a takeaway. Then she stumbled to the bench and felt drunk so decided to sit down for 5 minutes first.

I do not believe she would then walk into a dark area or a park, no matter how drunk. Nor would you run in there being chased as though this was some B grade horror movie in which people make really silly decisions. You would scream and keep in the main public lit areas.

The intermittent screams were a vixen fox. No would be killer chases someone and allows them to keep screaming, the risk is too high, they would turn around and leave. Nor would they be assaulting someone for 15 minutes again allowing them to make a noise for others to hear. You don't fall into icy cold water and have the ability to keep screaming. Your breathe is taken away combined with the energy expenditure lost struggling to get out.

The single scream and slam is the possible abduction. Vehicle reported at the park area is the abductors going to a dark secluded place for a sexual assault. Possible strangulation of victim, body dropped into the park and vehicle driven out as not to arise suspicion of a car being there for an extended period. Abductor than re-enters the park to dispose of the body in the river and hide items in the bushes and runs out as witnessed.

This is the reason why other areas and only the park are being searched because the vehicle does not leave the area according to cctv and evidence.

The bushes searches could be due to clothing items discarded that would have floated on the water.

Sorry for the long post!

 

[Griffinlay]

The police can only go on evidence, they can't pursue cases when the leads dry up and that is what happened in the Claudia Lawrence case.
I think they are trying very hard to recover some evidence from the park to progress the case and they must be convinced she ended up in the park. We don't know what else they are doing. They could be reviewing more CCTV etc.

I can’t understand that if they are so convinced she is or was in the park, why are they only going in there for a couple of hours a day with a few officers and not throwing more time and resources at it. It doesn’t make sense but then again nothing in this case makes sense.

 

[ly502]

Nope

Back when he was charged with voyeurism, etc., several people got into public records in the area where he came from, and no one could find anything under his name. But he is young...who knows what kind of trouble he might have gotten into as a teenager? Although, I don't know laws about the confidentiality of a minor's criminal record in other countries. But no one on here has found anything despite some pretty thorough searches of what is available to the public.

 

[Griffinlay]

I often click multiple times as well

And me. It’s a bit of a habit.

 

[Strontium69]

Police are along the streets around here posting leaflets.