Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #6 *ARREST*

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  • #501
I can’t get to the link though , search balaclava daily mail in the last month on the web
 

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  • #502
My partner who is a solicitor has said when March 11th comes around, PR will most likely be released on bail or get a suspended sentence, especially if he has no previous criminal record.

Like I’ve said previously, I really don’t think PR is responsible for the whereabouts of Libby.

Does anyone know if there’s any find Libby Facebook groups set up? I can’t find anything.
 
  • #503
She obviously was in a terrible state : Student Tom Tully saw her as the taxi dropped her home and describes her falling over a couple of times. And too drunk to be on her own.
Libby Squire - Cops recover lipgloss, hammer and screwdriver as mum says student, 21, DID make it home before vanishing
When the driver who stopped to ask her if she needed help it is reported that she had falled of the bench and was sitting or lying in the snow , obviously she looked visibly in distress and need of help , bad enough that a passing motorist would stop.
The most simplistic version is that she was completely out of it on alcohol and not thinking or behaving rationally , completely vulnerable.
The tragedy is that she refused more than one offer of help from well meaning people but seems to have gone with PR , presumably quasi willingly, altho in her condition she wasnt in a fit state to make good decisions..

Do you have a link to news report saying Libby was sitting/ lying in snow at the bench?
 
  • #504
If I heard that i would think animal noise for sure. I have heard cats before and thought it was a crying baby.
Years ago I woke up one night hearing a woman screaming and I thought it sounded like a woman being badly assaulted so I woke up my friends and they thought it did too. We couldn't make out which direction it was coming from so we all went out and went round the streets looking for where the screaming sounds were coming from. And it turned out it was a fox!

If this kid had never heard a screaming fox before he could definitely mistake it for a screaming woman, like I did!

On YouTube there are a few examples of screaming foxes if anyone wants to look and see what they think!
 
  • #505
She obviously was in a terrible state : Student Tom Tully saw her as the taxi dropped her home and describes her falling over a couple of times. And too drunk to be on her own.
Libby Squire - Cops recover lipgloss, hammer and screwdriver as mum says student, 21, DID make it home before vanishing
When the driver who stopped to ask her if she needed help it is reported that she had falled of the bench and was sitting or lying in the snow , obviously she looked visibly in distress and need of help , bad enough that a passing motorist would stop.
The most simplistic version is that she was completely out of it on alcohol and not thinking or behaving rationally , completely vulnerable.
The tragedy is that she refused more than one offer of help from well meaning people but seems to have gone with PR , presumably quasi willingly, altho in her condition she wasnt in a fit state to make good decisions..

I can’t see where’s she’s fallen off bench in snow ? Is it on this article and I’m being dumb ? Thanks
 
  • #506
My partner who is a solicitor has said when March 11th comes around, PR will most likely be released on bail or get a suspended sentence, especially if he has no previous criminal record.

Like I’ve said previously, I really don’t think PR is responsible for the whereabouts of Libby.

Does anyone know if there’s any find Libby Facebook groups set up? I can’t find anything.

Do you think that smoking guy in the cctv is NOT P?
 
  • #507
Years ago I woke up one night hearing a woman screaming and I thought it sounded like a woman being badly assaulted so I woke up my friends and they thought it did too. We couldn't make out which direction it was coming from so we all went out and went round the streets looking for where the screaming sounds were coming from. And it turned out it was a fox!

If this kid had never heard a screaming fox before he could definitely mistake it for a screaming woman, like I did!

On YouTube there are a few examples of screaming foxes if anyone wants to look and see what they think!

Ahh good point paddy the source is a child. what about the running man though?
 
  • #508
I can’t see where’s she’s fallen off bench in snow ? Is it on this article and I’m being dumb ? Thanks
Someone posted that info on here a while ago I think. They said they were a local and people around the area said they heard that she had cut herself and was lying on the floor. There was no link to any msm reports so it must have been a local rumour. Also if she had been in that situation the person that pulled over would have called an ambulance I think
 
  • #509
Do you think that smoking guy in the cctv is NOT P?

I think the guy in the CCTV IS PR and I’m not for one second implying he didn’t drive her somewhere or give her a lift etc, but I just don’t get the feeling that he’s harmed her or knows where her whereabouts is. He certainly sounds like a sleeze bag from the sexual allegations he’s been accused of prior to Libby’s disappearance but does that make him a murderer? I’m not convinced.
 
  • #510
She obviously was in a terrible state : Student Tom Tully saw her as the taxi dropped her home and describes her falling over a couple of times. And too drunk to be on her own.
Libby Squire - Cops recover lipgloss, hammer and screwdriver as mum says student, 21, DID make it home before vanishing
When the driver who stopped to ask her if she needed help it is reported that she had falled of the bench and was sitting or lying in the snow , obviously she looked visibly in distress and need of help , bad enough that a passing motorist would stop.
The most simplistic version is that she was completely out of it on alcohol and not thinking or behaving rationally , completely vulnerable.
The tragedy is that she refused more than one offer of help from well meaning people but seems to have gone with PR , presumably quasi willingly, altho in her condition she wasnt in a fit state to make good decisions..

I agree but this part:

When the driver who stopped to ask her if she needed help it is reported that she had falled of the bench and was sitting or lying in the snow

Is that in the reports? I didn't see that there? I haven't seen a clear explanation as to what distressed meant as it could mean falling on the floor to crying with her head in her hands.

Sadly it's the misconception that older men offering help are the creepy ones to watch out for when 9 times out of 10 it's the younger ones that are the danger.
 
  • #511
My partner who is a solicitor has said when March 11th comes around, PR will most likely be released on bail or get a suspended sentence, especially if he has no previous criminal record.

Like I’ve said previously, I really don’t think PR is responsible for the whereabouts of Libby.

Does anyone know if there’s any find Libby Facebook groups set up? I can’t find anything.

Wouldn't the multiple burglary charges count as the first offence and subsequent offences? Then the voyeurism and public decency charge another offence, you can get up to 9 months just for that one.
 
  • #512
An extended sexual assault in a built up area with the victim screaming does not really happen. In a secluded area in the middle of nowhere or in a building, yes. No rapist or murderer is that stupid to assault someone over a period of 15 minuets while they scream with houses and public around imo.

The only brazen attacks like that I can recall is something like Sally Anne Bowman pretty much on the drive of her house but she was stabbed and almost dead, if not dead when the sexual assault happened.
The 15 minutes of screams came from the park, which was probably otherwise deserted at that time of night. The man who heard them then saw a man dressed very lightly given the cold - consistent with the CCTV guy - running away.
 
  • #513
She obviously was in a terrible state : Student Tom Tully saw her as the taxi dropped her home and describes her falling over a couple of times. And too drunk to be on her own.
Libby Squire - Cops recover lipgloss, hammer and screwdriver as mum says student, 21, DID make it home before vanishing
When the driver who stopped to ask her if she needed help it is reported that she had falled of the bench and was sitting or lying in the snow , obviously she looked visibly in distress and need of help , bad enough that a passing motorist would stop.
The most simplistic version is that she was completely out of it on alcohol and not thinking or behaving rationally , completely vulnerable.
The tragedy is that she refused more than one offer of help from well meaning people but seems to have gone with PR , presumably quasi willingly, altho in her condition she wasnt in a fit state to make good decisions..

BBM , I still haven''t been able to find an MSM source for Libby having fallen off the bench - has anyone else please
 
  • #514
Someone posted that info on here a while ago I think. They said they were a local and people around the area said they heard that she had cut herself and was lying on the floor. There was no link to any msm reports so it must have been a local rumour. Also if she had been in that situation the person that pulled over would have called an ambulance I think

Yeah this. I don't see it as official. They grey haired guy asked if she was OK and she said yes. If she was bleeding rolling around on the ground that would not have happened.
 
  • #515
Ahh good point paddy the source is a child. what about the running man though?
Probably some park walker scared of the creepy fox noises!

I'm not sure about the running man. It depends on the age of the witness I think. Creepy noises in the park makes the imagination run wild if you're young! I don't know how well lit the park was and how possible it would be to clearly see someone running.

Also did he only see the man sprinting for 40 yards ? How many seconds would that take to run?
 
  • #516
Wouldn't the multiple burglary charges count as the first offence and subsequent offences? Then the voyeurism and public decency charge another offence, you can get up to 9 months just for that one.


I don’t think he’ll do jail time.
 
  • #517
Ahh good point paddy the source is a child. what about the running man though?

Just about to say the same.

The description of someone not dressed for the weather is a bit specific to me.

If it was just the screams of be saying fox (which I've had in mind all along).

But running man puts a spanner in that way of thinking.

Legal experts will know this but is it possible they have got enough for abduction but are holding off charging him for now because they already have him on remand and are maybe waiting on extra information or evidence showing up? So no rush to charge him as he's already in prison awaiting trial?

Could it be tactical why charges havnt been brought against him about the abduction?

Probably not I assume but just trying to think of all options.
 
  • #518
Ahh good point paddy the source is a child. what about the running man though?

Is it a child? I know the father referred to his son but has his age been confirmed. If it was a child I wouldn't pay much heed, a child wouldn't be able to judge how long 15 minutes was having woken up in the middle of the night imo

I'm not yet convinced this noise is relavant

JMO
 
  • #519
Wouldn't the multiple burglary charges count as the first offence and subsequent offences? Then the voyeurism and public decency charge another offence, you can get up to 9 months just for that one.
Nope
 
  • #520
Probably some park walker scared of the creepy fox noises!

I'm not sure about the running man. It depends on the age of the witness I think. Creepy noises in the park makes the imagination run wild if you're young! I don't know how well lit the park was and how possible it would be to clearly see someone running.

Also did he only see the man sprinting for 40 yards ? How many seconds would that take to run?

This is the first time I’ve heard that the park scream/ running man reports came from a child! Is there a link to the report? The only ones I’ve seen refer to a man saying “my son heard...” but not referencing an age.
 
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