Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #6 *ARREST*

[Zazie]

Oak Road Playing Fields:

I have found the memory card with all the photos I took around the boathouse and that patch of overgrown thicket. I'll post something, hopefully today, to give you all a more precise overview of that area.

My heart jumped when I read the first few words of this post - thought someone had actually found some evidence in the park!

But thanks, that would be v interesting, particularly if you can give us a sense of around the riverbanks.

 

[wowiezowie]

He could have come from his house down Cottingham Rd turning left into Haworth...that dead end area is a bit of a park up spot for a few people. Or if he has spotted her before parking on Haworth then yes he must have been driving towards the city.

If he came from his house into Haworth St he wouldn’t have even known Libby was there, it’s almost as if it was an arranged meeting but it can’t be. He must have gone past her and then turned right onto Cottingham Rd, it must have been a split second decision though as it’s not that far between the bench and the junction

 

[Katinkia]

Re Harvey. My son knows him and they go to the same school. He absconds from foster care a lot and has been seen all over Hull. He just hasn’t been home. So he is not where he is supposed to be but not really missing. I’m sure if they thought something had happened to him there would be more activity but kids run away from care/foster care a lot unfortunately and are usually with friends.

 

[Audiohoney]

If he came from his house into Haworth St he wouldn’t have even known Libby was there, it’s almost as if it was an arranged meeting but it can’t be. He must have gone past her and then turned right onto Cottingham Rd, it must have been a split second decision though as it’s not that far between the bench and the junction

Could it be that he drove from his home to pick up a takeaway or cigarette papers (Sainsbury’s) Parked intentionally on Haworth because he did so quite often when nipping to the shop at night. Saw LS on the bench as he walked across to the shop, walked back to the car, rolled and smoke his cigarette whilst thinking about whether to make a move, then wandered back round again to approach her.

 

[OrlandoJames]

Could it be that he drove from his home to pick up a takeaway or cigarette papers (Sainsbury’s) Parked intentionally on Haworth because he did so quite often when nipping to the shop at night. Saw LS on the bench as he walked across to the shop, walked back to the car, rolled and smoke his cigarette whilst thinking about whether to make a move, then wandered back round again to approach her.

I definitely think he knew very well that LS was on the bench when he sat down and rolled his cigarette (if that was what he was doing). I think he'd seen her and a thought had entered his head, but he needed time to decide whether to act on it. Maybe the thought in his head was about something he hadn't done before - a step up from any of his previous actions - and he needed a couple of minutes to think about it first.

 

[Sairzz]

I thought maybe he had been to the gym and had been heading home and seen her, the route would be correct and would explain his attire however I've just checked and the gym closes at 10pm on a Thursday so that can be ruled out.

Anyone know what times/days when he was reported to have been flashing? Could this match up?

Unless he waits for his wife to be asleep everytime he goes out at night then he must tell his wife something surely, like: I'm just off for a run or I'm off to get a takeaway, so what happens in this area at that time that may give him his alibi?

If he had told his sister about the girl on Beverley road then surely he said something to his wife also, so wherever he was supposed to be going this must have been the route or she would question why he was there.

For him to have told his sister to me seems like a panic reaction, he's worried and needs to come up with an excuse, he reels off this story to his sister, it kind of creates an alibi for him, someone to back up his claims.

I'd read that he was worried because he was acting as a taxi service and that why he didnt come forward, was this just speculation or did this come from the sister also?

I'm still thinking he took her somewhere and didn't kill her, being a Pervy creep and being a murderer is a big step up.

 

[Sairzz]

Also to note: if him doing a taxi service for a bit of extra income is correct and the wife maybe knows then who else did he pick up that night or even on previous nights? Surely someone must remember being picked up by him at some point.

 

[OrlandoJames]

I thought maybe he had been to the gym and had been heading home and seen her, the route would be correct and would explain his attire however I've just checked and the gym closes at 10pm on a Thursday so that can be ruled out.

Anyone know what times/days when he was reported to have been flashing? Could this match up?

Unless he waits for his wife to be asleep everytime he goes out at night then he must tell his wife something surely, like: I'm just off for a run or I'm off to get a takeaway, so what happens in this area at that time that may give him his alibi?

If he had told his sister about the girl on Beverley road then surely he said something to his wife also, so wherever he was supposed to be going this must have been the route or she would question why he was there.

For him to have told his sister to me seems like a panic reaction, he's worried and needs to come up with an excuse, he reels off this story to his sister, it kind of creates an alibi for him, someone to back up his claims.

I'd read that he was worried because he was acting as a taxi service and that why he didnt come forward, was this just speculation or did this come from the sister also?

I'm still thinking he took her somewhere and didn't kill her, being a Pervy creep and being a murderer is a big step up.

But virtually all men who end up committing sexually-motivated murders begin by being pervy creeps. Not all pervy creeps escalate to murder, but those who do end up committing the really serious crimes invariably begin with lesser offences.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I have been there tonight and you can access the entire area around the park and the pond.

Morning Strontium.

Anything else you noticed about the park? Was it pitch black or is there any lighting? Do you think the red brick house might have had a view of running man in any direction? Were gates locked? Anyone else around down there? Was the pond visible in the dark or could someone have run into it? Whats the river bank like along there, easy to scramble up? Did it feel isolated or intimidating?

Questions questions, looking forward to hearing any findings you might have!

 

[hitthenick]

Please could you tell me what all those flashings mean when he gets in as out of his car? First the flash once, as he returns to his car, then they flash as he re locks it, but then they flash 4 times when he returns with the passenger. Sorry if you’ve already covered this, but I’d like to know if it indicates he’s got the doors child locked or something the second time he unlocks? Thanks

The flashes of the indicators.

When you use the remote central locking buttons on the key on those cars, you can unlock and lock the vehicle.

When you lock or unlock it, the indicators will flash just once which is normal. If you keep pressing the buttons on the key it will keep flashing the indicators once for every time the button is pressed. If you press it 4 times, lights flash 4 times. He must have pressed the key button repeatedly to get the indicators to flash more than once. It's not possible to ascertain if he is locking or unlocking the car based on the indicator flashes.

 

[Joolz1975]

But virtually all men who end up committing sexually-motivated murders begin by being pervy creeps. Not all pervy creeps escalate to murder, but those who do end up committing the really serious crimes invariably begin with lesser offences.

Agreed...wouldn't be surprised if more charges heading his way either regarding other women.

 

[truthfinder34]

But virtually all men who end up committing sexually-motivated murders begin by being pervy creeps. Not all pervy creeps escalate to murder, but those who do end up committing the really serious crimes invariably begin with lesser offences.

Agree there has to be a first murder for murderer.

He's so brazen! His offences are very close to home , which increases the chances of him being recognised ( adds extra thrill maybe?). He screams psychopath to me. Especially the boxing day incident, he followed them home and watched them through their window! WOW to me that is not just a low grade flasher.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

He'd ruin CBB - there'd be webs all over the house cameras obscuring the detail.

That's not necessarily a bad thing though.

 

[mrjitty]

Agree there has to be a first murder for murderer.

He's so brazen! His offences are very close to home , which increases the chances of him being recognised ( adds extra thrill maybe?). He screams psychopath to me. Especially the boxing day incident, he followed them home and watched them through their window! WOW to me that is not just a low grade flasher.

This is why few killers graduate to be serial offenders.

Even notorious serial attackers often killed their first victim relatively spontaneously close to home. Sometimes perps get away with this but usually not.

IMO Vincent Tabak was a budding serial murderer who began to act up to his ultimate sexually motivated murder.

But as usual, he attacked someone close to him - likely losing control to some fantasy.

Had he got away with it, I guarantee you he would have attacked more women, but he would have been far more careful.

In this case we appear to have a perp who lurks around this student area and is opportunistic

I now favour the idea that any "taxi" aspect was a ruse he may have developed to assault women, or is a cover story to be lurking around

 

[jamjim]

09:51
Police officers are about to start another search at Oak Road playing fields
Our reporter at the scene says officers are preparing chainsaws ready to search the woodland areas and bracken around the area.

Libby Squire latest as search for Hull student enters 14th day

 

[mrjitty]

09:51
Police officers are about to start another search at Oak Road playing fields
Our reporter at the scene says officers are preparing chainsaws ready to search the woodland areas and bracken around the area.

Libby Squire latest as search for Hull student enters 14th day

This does not seem so serious - i wonder if they are just eliminating any possibilities now

 

[truthfinder34]

This is why few killers graduate to be serial offenders.

Even notorious serial attackers often killed their first victim relatively spontaneously close to home. Sometimes perps get away with this but usually not.

IMO Vincent Tabak was a budding serial murderer who began to act up to his ultimate sexually motivated murder.

But as usual, he attacked someone close to him - likely losing control to some fantasy.

Had he got away with it, I guarantee you he would have attacked more women, but he would have been far more careful.

In this case we appear to have a perp who lurks around this student area and is opportunistic

I now favour the idea that any "taxi" aspect was a ruse he may have developed to assault women, or is a cover story to be lurking around

It's scary to think if he has done anything to libby and they can't pin point anything on him ....He will be free to walk the streets. I hope to god this isnt the case.

 

[Sairzz]

But virtually all men who end up committing sexually-motivated murders begin by being pervy creeps. Not all pervy creeps escalate to murder, but those who do end up committing the really serious crimes invariably begin with lesser offences.

Yeah I suppose your right,

he seems to enjoy the thrill, he doesn't care about being seen even so close to home, he robs off his own street, breaks into homes, stands on street corners and peers into windows yet doesn't cover his face, it's like he almost wants to get caught.

 

[yoyo1]

I'm still thinking he took her somewhere and didn't kill her, being a Pervy creep and being a murderer is a big step up.

Maybe he didnt set out initially with the intention of killing her.
I agree its difficult to fathom the conscious step up from flashing and invading young womens homes to murder but then hes obviously fixated by all the young student girls in his locality. Its conceivable to imagine a situation where he saw libby by the roadside in the state she was in and coudnt resist approaching her, maybe if he had got what he wanted amicably it woudnt have escalated , but my feeling is he went down a sinister path and just kept on going.
And as mrjitty says he seems the kindof guy who if his first victim had been a lower profile target with less of a media or police interest and he hadnt been caught he would have done it again.

 

[Quintet]

Also to note: if him doing a taxi service for a bit of extra income is correct and the wife maybe knows then who else did he pick up that night or even on previous nights? Surely someone must remember being picked up by him at some point.

Exactly my thoughts, you would definitely expect folks to come forward to say he had previously picked them up. Nothing.