Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #7 *ARREST*

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So our friend will not have got far that night without being picked up.

I would gamble my mortgage on those cars being tagged already and the drivers and/or keepers being known to plod.

However that does not mean they are in any way connected. The cars could have been stolen, likewise, the drivers could have already come forward unbeknown to us, and been eliminated.
 
It looks like this story is from 2018? Am I reading it wrong? There are othere stories about this person being wanted by Police

Yes it nothing really of significants sadly just a Shop lifter on the run from the police when I first come across it said missing since 22 Jan? on Beverley road hull my heart sort of jump it got my interest could not find an update - then found out it was a year ago and this person was wanted by police not sure if the police have caught up with her it been that sort of day no further updates lol
 
Maybe he's putting the other guys bicycle in the boot

He looks like he talks to someone, looking over the top of his car roof, just before he sits down to roll cigarette/text. Possibly the driver of the other car, as that drives off straight after.
 
Maybe PR is a fisherman? ( most Polish people I know are plus the police took a long black case from his house which looked like a fisherman kit to me)
No mentioned of LS boyfriends - maybe she is gay?
I remember someone mentioned the pair of trainers found in the park. LS was wearing trainers. Is it the same pair?

His mother stated his hobbies were fishing and hockey.
 
Can't help feeling that at this stage now, we're all going over the same old stuff day in and day out with absolutely no further updates from Humberside police at all since more or less the beginning. We're all guessing and it's become a bit outrageous although I am open minded to a degree.

I feel sad for this girl, she has pretty much clearly come to harm in some way, shape or form.

My absolute theory is he picked up in that car next to the bench, no idea what happened after that but I really feel this PR guy is very well connected in the community in a discrete way, the Polish community. He has a big family, delving into that and all the connections of all the various people, it seems there's plenty of them where he works, not to mention landlords of his nationality, gym owners and so on.

I think the ultimate answers are within that community. I don't feel he has acted alone either.

I don't feel the police have an idea at all what has happened, I can't believe they will do these repetitive searches in the same spots every day now. It's just gardening really, they're seen to be doing and it's almost embarrassing to see a couple of hours a day strimming bushes. They even went under water the other day and came out after an hour or two. Why was that? What was the point in doint a few straight lines with divers in a large lake? All of this I feel is a massive smokescreen, no way will the police admit they are stumped. For them to suddenly turn round after two weeks and say " she may have come to harm " is very alarming - IE, they have no idea.

I don't even think either of them actually got to the park.

He's either dropped her off somewhere and someone else got involved.

He's either killed her and dumped her out of the way

He's either dropped her off and she had an accident - unlikely now.

For me, I doubt now she will ever be found.

This idiot polish guy seems thick as **** but maybe he isn't.

I would gamble my house that she isn't local, he seems to have covered his tracks exceptionally well to me.

Think I'll be taking a back seat and just keep my eyes on the press for the time being, it drives me mad going round in circles all the time.

Excellent coverage by the locals with the photos, videos and local knowledge, I'm familiar to a degree with the area.

Lets hope she is found one day, and soon preferably. Best wishes to everyone.

I agree with you on every single point. Thanks for your excellent analysis of the cars, which is very helpful.
 
In all the many cases I have followed when the missing person is not found quickly, we find ourselves in this stage, with no new info, discussing every angle, repeating issues etc...but I can’t recall one with a sort of obsessive-type search of small areas like we are seeing here, with no searching seeming to go on elsewhere. Usually we see searching come to an end, awaiting new leads.

I hope this method proves fruitful...and that they have a plan for what comes next, if not. But...don’‘t be surprised if they don’t...many times, a case just goes silent. For months, even years...everything depends on new evidence. I have a feeling there will be outrage if this happens, maybe we are more jaded in U.S. as we see it happen too often. The worst is not hearing from LE at all...jmo
 
That's Brill about being called Beresford Park by locals!
Here is another Youtube drone/ariel Camera footage of Oak Road/Beresford Park. Its a bit slow to start but may be useful.
Thanks - thats a good video , gives a good idea of the park and surrounding area.
 
If I was her parents.... and had the information that all websleuths have publicly available then....
I would just like to see some MAJOR searching going on in all open areas around her home area and maybe civilian searches ? as it seems there is a vast expanse of area potentially unsearched.
If this isn’t happening then I can only assume that

A. They have no real info to search specific locations
Or
B. They have intelligence to say she is NOT likely to be in the area and haven’t made that known to public.
I agree , given that this is a potential murder investigation and getting the critical evidence necessary for solving and proving the case could depend on finding her body i agree with you that more comprehensive searches would seem like an obvious thing to do.
There has been none of the lines of public searching ground like ive seen in past missing persons cases on tv. odd.
 
I'm starting to think that initial movement at the front passenger door/seat isn't him, but her. Does she get in and then out again?
It looks like she starts to get in (or is ushered in) then gets out... and is then 'encouraged' back into the car. Also... there doesn't seem to be time for him to put his seat belt on before he drives off. Not that unusual, I guess, but perhaps indicates him wanting to drive off sharpish.
 
Maybe it was during this period of monitoring that they saw him go to the park, rather than on the night in question? Thing is, if they were sure that was P in footage, I think they would swoop in straight away rather than sit and survey

Not necessarily, when Sian O'Callaghan went missing they had their suspect under surveillance for a few days first hoping he would lead them to her.

They only arrested him when they did because he was seen purchasing an overdose quantity of painkillers.
 
Also I'm stumped why Libby would refuse any help from the grey bearded man but a few minutes later jump into a car with a complete stranger drunk or not.

Especially if his English is also poor it seems unlikely to me without some more context (info form Police!).

She may of just had enough of the lonely and cold and thought her friends may of returned home, he may have offered to sit with her in the car outside til they got back
 
She may of just had enough of the lonely and cold and thought her friends may of returned home, he may have offered to sit with her in the car outside til they got back
Grey bearded man was older. She may have instinctively trusted the fresh-faced PR, who is closer to her own age.
 
Police reveal next step in Libby search as they vow not to give up

Just a little HullLive puff piece for Humberside Police's next steps

Nothing new really , just reiterating the info from last press conf.

Must be so frustrating for them, we don't know what they have but they obviously have other lines of enquiry to follow up on.

I bet the cctv footage alone is a massive task.

Hope they get that stand out bit of evidence they need sooner rather than later.
 
Something just crossed my mind.
PR sister allegedly said that he had put her address in his sat nav.
If it was LS who got in the car in cobweb cctv then it’s evident he did not have time to do this before he pulled away.
 
When he gets into the car the footage rapidly speeds up and I think it's about 20 seconds before he actually pulls off.

If you watch the time stamp at the top you can see it's been fast forwarded. They speed up lots of bits throughout the footage.
 
With both hands in his lap I was thinking something else but didn't want to mention it.
I suggested much earlier that he could have been removing a condom.
What if him and other car(Megane) both attacked her behind the bench area, then they took her body etc to another place for disposal. And that was in fact him removing a condom and not rolling something.
 
Something just crossed my mind.
PR sister allegedly said that he had put her address in his sat nav.
If it was LS who got in the car in cobweb cctv then it’s evident he did not have time to do this before he pulled away.
Problems with the sisters 'statement' if it is true:

1. We don't know that the sister is referring to LS. It's very likely but we don't know.

2. Why would anyone need to put an address just around the corner into a SatNav?

3. We don't know when the incident the sister is talking about happened.

Also it has never been confirmed that PR and LS are the people in the CCTV.
 
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