Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #9 *ARREST*

[Quintet]

More than 1,300 sex offenders are walking the streets of Hull and East Yorkshire.

The new figures mean that Hull and East Yorkshire has one of the highest numbers of sex offenders per head, compared to the rest of the UK.


Altogether, 1,303 people who were on the sex offenders register were recorded as living in the Humberside Police force area, as of March 2018 – that’s one for every 630 people on the north bank of the Humber, as well as in North and North East Lincolnshire.

This is how many paedophiles and rapists live in our area

Is this the article you're referring to?

Oh, you’re good at this! Yes, that’s the one. Thank you.

 

[Sammie1970]

What do you mean by "No"?

The police initially released an official statement stating he had been CHARGED for the 26 December voyeurism.

Therefore, they dropped the charge overnight.

This means they spent 96 hours questioning, and charged him for the 26 December....before changing their mind a few hours later and finding a different charge before court.

I stress - In a few short hours, overnight, before arriving in court the next morning, the 26 December charge was dropped and then they magically found evidence from five months earlier for the same crime - voyeurism.

Bit odd, no? Isn't this a sleuthing forum?

I have to say that when they first announced the charges for him I thought they had been down in the basement searching for pre 1800 charges they could charge him with. One of them I had never heard of Outraging Public Decency.

 

[LucyRocket]

Nobody is asking to know they're "safe", we just want to know if there is a high risk danger.

I know I'm not "safe" walking down the street at night, but I'm definitely in danger walking down a street with Christopher Halliwell on it.

It's like saying "oh yeah, you might bump into Christopher Halliwell...but you wouldn't be safe anyway so I'm not going to tell you about him because it would be doing you a disservice"

I know absolutely what you are saying, so please don't think I am minimising your well- placed angst. However, statistically, you are slightly more at risk in any other place in the UK than you are in Hull right now. Because serial killers/ abductors make up such a minimal percentage of offenders . The vast majority are singular victims. I hate even posting this because I really hope we hear of an out of the blue celebration of Libby returning safely. But if she has come to harm, it is statistically highly unlikely that the same thing is going to happen to someone else nearby in the near future

 

[JustTryingToHelp]

I still find it that odd


I seem to recall a report last year 2018 stating 1303 known sex offenders in the area. (Only known, not including unknown. PR has not been convicted) Unfortunately the police are unable to tell us how close these offenders are and the level of risk they are still deemed to be.

Whilst this is awful, most of them will not cause a problem to a random person walking down the street.

Most victims of sexual offences are known to the perpetrators (people in positions of authority, family members, family friends, spouses, dates). This is why we have safeguarding, social services, domestic abuse shelters and other authorities to try to tackle this and provide support to victims.

Yes, that's terrible, and it's not to take away from those victims, but here the concern is sexually-motivated abducters/murderers who snatch total strangers from the street.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

What do you mean by "No"?

The police initially released an official statement stating he had been CHARGED for the 26 December voyeurism.

Therefore, they dropped the charge overnight.

This means they spent 96 hours questioning, and charged him for the 26 December....before changing their mind a few hours later and finding a different charge before court.

I stress - In a few short hours, overnight, before arriving in court the next morning, the 26 December charge was dropped and then they magically found evidence from five months earlier for the same crime - voyeurism.

Bit odd, no? Isn't this a sleuthing forum?

What is your thinking behind the defence's Not Guilty plea to all charges JTTH?

 

[JustTryingToHelp]

I know absolutely what you are saying, so please don't think I am minimising your well- placed angst. However, statistically, you are slightly more at risk in any other place in the UK than you are in Hull right now. Because serial killers/ abductors make up such a minimal percentage of offenders . The vast majority are singular victims. I hate even posting this because I really hope we hear of an out of the blue celebration of Libby returning safely. But if she has come to harm, it is statistically highly unlikely that the same thing is going to happen to someone else nearby in the near future

I live 5 mins away from where a girl vanished from thin air.

Please stop.

 

[JustTryingToHelp]

What is your thinking behind the defence's Not Guilty plea to all charges JTTH?

Not sure!

 

[LucyRocket]

I almost hate to ask, but was he a normal, friendly guy outwardly?

Yes! Quite charming really. A real family mam who had full custody of his child over the mother. And several years younger than me so I wouldn't have seen him as a threat at all. A kind of big brother to everyone. If it wasn't for the fact I was nursing a broken heart and didn't want any man near me I probably would have been very flattered at his attention and fallen right in

Oh dear sorry just realised I replied regarding the wrong person altogether. See my later post

 

[hitthenick]

I have 100% faith in detectives here in the UK. They will be keeping everything close to their chest and even possibly asking her family to also stay quiet at this crucial time while they investigate PR.

Yes, usually I would agree with you. Yet in this case, I really feel the police are far out from what happened. By now, they'd have had DNA and forensics back from his car, he has either had her in there or not. Considering no charge has come to him regarding Libby 3 weeks on, I really think the police are stumped on this case. His simple defence of the arrest can just be, I dropped her off at X and went somewhere else or home. No proof of death, no body, no solid evidence.

At best, I can only think the police will have very light circumstantial evidence which often just isn't enough.

I'm not even 100% sure they have the correct guy in custody now.

The thing is, it happens, the police never solve every case and do things up too. They are only human

 

[Sera]

Forgive me if I sound naive, but is it possible that the 26th December voyeurism charge WAS actually still one of the charges on the court date, but it just wasn't listed in MSM for some reason? Or is it possible that there was actually just some sort of miscommunication within the media and he was never actually being charged for the Boxing Day offense, or was always the July one, but it was reported incorrectly in MSM? Just trying to think of reasons that it didn't appear on the list of charges in court.

 

[JustTryingToHelp]

We're all just speculating, but I genuinely think it'll all come out in the wash.

Mistakes have been made.

Wait and see.

 

[Sammie1970]

Yes, usually I would agree with you. Yet in this case, I really feel the police are far out from what happened. By now, they'd have had DNA and forensics back from his car, he has either had her in there or not. Considering no charge has come to him regarding Libby 3 weeks on, I really think the police are stumped on this case. His simple defence of the arrest can just be, I dropped her off at X and went somewhere else or home. No proof of death, no body, no solid evidence.

At best, I can only think the police will have very light circumstantial evidence which often just isn't enough.

I'm not even 100% sure they have the correct guy in custody now.

The thing is, it happens, the police never solve every case and do things up too. They are only human

Could it be possible they may find her before his court appearance and are waiting before giving the correct charge?

 

[LucyRocket]

I almost hate to ask, but was he a normal, friendly guy outwardly?

No. I always found him creepy, tried to avoid any contact with him. He had a right chip on his shoulder about everyone and everything in society. Every conversation was always about how much of a victim he was (not relating to the crimes as these hadn't come to light by this point)

Not everyone felt like this though. Some of my workmates kind of took a maternal role towards him

 

[JustTryingToHelp]

Forgive me if I sound naive, but is it possible that the 26th December voyeurism charge WAS actually still one of the charges on the court date, but it just wasn't listed in MSM for some reason? Or is it possible that there was actually just some sort of miscommunication within the media and he was never actually being charged for the Boxing Day offense, or was always the July one, but it was reported incorrectly in MSM? Just trying to think of reasons that it didn't appear on the list of charges in court.

The Boxing Day offence was initially announced on the Humberside Police website.

 

[JustTryingToHelp]

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I think it is possible the police made a mistake on the evening of 31 Jan. This is just my opinion, not an allegation. I think everything else has been knee jerk as a result.

I've written about this previously.

 

[jessie]

No. I always found him creepy, tried to avoid any contact with him. He had a right chip on his shoulder about everyone and everything in society. Every conversation was always about how much of a victim he was (not relating to the crimes as these hadn't come to light by this point)

Not everyone felt like this though. Some of my workmates kind of took a maternal role towards him

Thank you. I appreciate the insight.

 

[cluciano63]

I think we always want police to tell us whether or not we should feel “safe” after a scary event in our area. But sometimes they just don’t know if it was a one-time thing, or the beginning of something else, etc...

In any event, few places are truly safe and Hull, imo, seems to have some especially dicey areas and the full monty, so to speak, of a range of regular criminal activities. I think I would always be as cautious as possible...but convincing younger people that they are not immortal is not easy. Jmo

 

[Sera]

The Boxing Day offence was initially announced on the Humberside Police website.

Thank you for correcting me. Then is my "it just wasn't included on the list" from court still a possibility?

 

[Ched]

Can someone explain the law bits to me pleas ? (Sorry if I’ve missed it ) so at present we are waiting for the sexual pervy charges to go to court in March , what happens IF the police find something to charge him for abduction/murder before that ... I mean point blank evidence (hypothetical) .... do we have to wait until the March date or does it all change the day the police have their proof ? Pd I’m not on about if he’s done anything or not , just asking about the law bits and how that all works

 

[JustTryingToHelp]

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No, I don't have any personal and professional experience with the police at all. I find it odd how there seems to be a different senior detective speaking at every press conference. If you pay interest to the news, you'll know this is highly unusual. Usually you see the same detective/chief leading throughout a high profile case. It gives continuity to the campaign and reassurance to the family and community.

Maybe there are innocent reasons for it (holidays, days off etc), but as this is a sleuthing site I'm, erm, sleuthing.