Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #11 *ARREST*

[Newthoughts]

Do we also actually know that any of the stolen items were found at PR’s house? I know it’s been reported police were removing bags of evidence, but, were they ever specific about what were in the bags? I still find it unusual that he would have such items in a house he shares with his wife. Could they have taken fingerprints at the trespassed homes, which match PR’s? Is this how he’s able to say Not Guilty. I feel if there were the items reported to have been taken actually in his possession, then it would be hard to deny, surely?

Nobody can say as it would impact on the trial.

My guess is yes they were. My guess is he'll change to guilty

 

[gravyh]

Hi all,

I've been following this thread for just over three weeks now and have finally plucked up the courage to create an account and make a post ...as a 21 year old philosophy student at a different university in the north of the UK who has drunkenly walked home by myself multiple times (no judgements please), this case has really hit home.

I agree with what seems to be the general consensus(?) here that PR attacked Libby and she's now in water. Reading between the lines of what information LE have given us, I think it's obvious that PR is spiderman and Libby got into his car. Although he has not yet been convicted for his charges, if that is the case then I think it's unlikely that Libby escaped one predator that night to fall into the hands of another whom LE seem to have no evidence of.

I think the 15 minutes of screams heard on the park/playing fields are far more plausible than the woman and her husband who heard a 'blood-curdling' scream and a banging gate. Having lived in a student house in a student area for two years, you hear those sorts of screams and bangs all the time - I really think this was just another drunk student and the woman just put two and two together and was trying to help.

RE PR's trespassing charges: again, having lived in student housing for the past two years, burglaries happen all the time. In the student suburb I lived in they would happen almost daily. Very often they would actually occur when people were home in the middle of the day. It happened to the house next door to me in broad daylight - someone entered the house through the back upstairs window whilst the students were downstairs and they made away with three macbooks. Nobody saw or heard anything. I had a ground floor bedroom and if I heard someone moving about upstairs or come through the front door (ours was always locked but I know in other student houses that's not the case), I'd assume it was one of my housemates. It would be the last thing on my mind to check for sure. I was also the only one out of my five other housemates to lock my internal bedroom door every time I left. Had I had a bedroom upstairs I probably would have locked it while I was downstairs too. It's crazy to me that they didn't, but I do think it's quite common for students to leave their internal doors unlocked unless going home for Christmas, etc. I don't think PR had any keys to houses, it's likely that doors were unlocked or windows left open. Student houses are often broken into, and I think PR knew that they're easy targets.

So sorry for the long post, I've been wanting to reply to everything for ages lol, had a lot to get out

 

[Officer Dibble]

Suppose 3 out of 4 people came forward but the one in a distinctive colour top didn’t, maybe that would be grounds for a new search warrant, particularly if LE thought they’d seen a similar coloured garment on the previous visit?

ETA perhaps the most recent searches of gardens backing on to park for clothing were to exclude such a garment being dumped?

My opinion

Good thought process here

 

[bos]

Nobody knows but in my opinion voluntarily going to police with the story he gave to his sister would open a real can of worms for him.

If he is lying and the story he's given his sister is the one he's using it isn't very good. It's a short route from pick up to her house. Dropping her anywhere en route narrows the search radius and you'd expect her to be found. Conversely her wandering off again would surely give at least one sighting after 12.09. I'd have thought of a better one.

If he was telling the truth he might be scared that the possibility of being b the last person to see her.

So my guess is he didn't till he had to.

When his sister spoke to The Telegraph, the incompleteness of what she recounted i.e what happened after he allegedly pushed the crying girl away was missing. To me, that smacks of a hurried, short explanation rather than voluntary full and frank disclosure pre arrest. For that reason, my personal opinion is that he didn’t contact the police prior to being arrested. JMO etc

Libby Squire: Sister of butcher held over missing student reveals he comforted her on night she vanished - but insists he's innocent

 

[Vermont24]

Hi all,

I've been following this thread for just over three weeks now and have finally plucked up the courage to create an account and make a post ...as a 21 year old philosophy student at a different university in the north of the UK who has drunkenly walked home by myself multiple times (no judgements please), this case has really hit home.

I agree with what seems to be the general consensus(?) here that PR attacked Libby and she's now in water. Reading between the lines of what information LE have given us, I think it's obvious that PR is spiderman and Libby got into his car. Although he has not yet been convicted for his charges, if that is the case then I think it's unlikely that Libby escaped one predator that night to fall into the hands of another whom LE seem to have no evidence of.

I think the 15 minutes of screams heard on the park/playing fields are far more plausible than the woman and her husband who heard a 'blood-curdling' scream and a banging gate. Having lived in a student house in a student area for two years, you hear those sorts of screams and bangs all the time - I really think this was just another drunk student and the woman just put two and two together and was trying to help.

RE PR's trespassing charges: again, having lived in student housing for the past two years, burglaries happen all the time. In the student suburb I lived in they would happen almost daily. Very often they would actually occur when people were home in the middle of the day. It happened to the house next door to me in broad daylight - someone entered the house through the back upstairs window whilst the students were downstairs and they made away with three macbooks. Nobody saw or heard anything. I had a ground floor bedroom and if I heard someone moving about upstairs or come through the front door (ours was always locked but I know in other student houses that's not the case), I'd assume it was one of my housemates. It would be the last thing on my mind to check for sure. I was also the only one out of my five other housemates to lock my internal bedroom door every time I left. Had I had a bedroom upstairs I probably would have locked it while I was downstairs too. It's crazy to me that they didn't, but I do think it's quite common for students to leave their internal doors unlocked unless going home for Christmas, etc. I don't think PR had any keys to houses, it's likely that doors were unlocked or windows left open. Student houses are often broken into, and I think PR knew that they're easy targets.

So sorry for the long post, I've been wanting to reply to everything for ages lol, had a lot to get out

Welcome! Sensible first post.

 

[Officer Dibble]

which MSM? I didn't see that precise one.

Msm did say his wife relayed what PR said to her to his mum in poland after his arrest.[/QUOTE

 

[Officer Dibble]

Can someone tell me, if PR is found not guilty on the 11th or even guilty but with time being already served and he hops on the next flight to Poland, what will then happen in the case of any new evidence after this that points to him? What will the implications of him being in Poland be?

Good point. You mean if there is no reason to withdraw his passport? I don't konw...

 

[Inspecthernightly]

FYI how do you know what biscuit he was fiddling with?

It could have been a different variety I'm thinking round, oaty, little husky bits that stick in your throat? Starts with the letter H.

Ah yes, They do last longer.

 

[Joolz1975]

Good point. You mean if there is no reason to withdraw his passport? I don't konw...

Id be on my way out of the UK and going into hiding pronto if I was him...just incase things start to catch up with me.

Maybe if they release him on some sort of licence he would have to surrender his passport.

 

[Cherwell]

Most likely the sister and mother have got the story second-hand from the wife, who may have put her own spin on it. Beware the chinese whispers.

 

[Joolz1975]

This. Most likely the sister and mother have got the story second-hand from the wife, who may have put her own spin on it. Beware the chinese whispers.

This ^^

 

[Inspecthernightly]

which MSM? I didn't see that precise one.

Mum of butcher held by Libby Squire cops says he's innocent & 'scared of blood'

 

[Quintet]

Nobody can say as it would impact on the trial.

My guess is yes they were. My guess is he'll change to guilty

Change to guilty for all charges? Then presumably he’ll be put on the sex offenders register in doing so?

 

[bos]

Has it ever been confirmed that he has spoken to his sister or is it just reported in the tabloids? Seems strange to me that he would tell his sister first, rather than his wife. I’m sure I read that his mother said she spoke to his wife daily, but, this was reported in the tabs, so not necessarily correct.

The Telegraph said she spoke to them. Mail Online i.e the online version of The Daily Mail are the ones who claim to have visited and spoken to is mother in Poland

 

[Inspecthernightly]

Has it ever been confirmed that he has spoken to his sister or is it just reported in the tabloids? Seems strange to me that he would tell his sister first, rather than his wife. I’m sure I read that his mother said she spoke to his wife daily, but, this was reported in the tabs, so not necessarily correct.

Spoke to hi

Has it ever been confirmed that he has spoken to his sister or is it just reported in the tabloids? Seems strange to me that he would tell his sister first, rather than his wife. I’m sure I read that his mother said she spoke to his wife daily, but, this was reported in the tabs, so not necessarily correct.

Yeah it was the sun lol

 

[bos]

Id be on my way out of the UK and going into hiding pronto if I was him...just incase things start to catch up with me.

Maybe if they release him on some sort of licence he would have to surrender his passport.

Even if he’s released after Monday, he’s still on bail under investigation for kidnap; I’d have thought conditions of such bail would be surrendering passport

 

[Chester]

Even if he’s released after Monday, he’s still on bail under investigation for kidnap; I’d have thought conditions of such bail would be surrendering passport

Top of the list, although I'm not sure how effective it would be, would imagine it wouldn't be difficult to leave the country without one.

 

[jessie]

Even if he’s released after Monday, he’s still on bail under investigation for kidnap; I’d have thought conditions of such bail would be surrendering passport

He is not on bail - he was never charged with kidnap.

 

[Joolz1975]

Even if he’s released after Monday, he’s still on bail under investigation for kidnap; I’d have thought conditions of such bail would be surrendering passport

Thanks Bos.

Seems I wrongly presumed that because he wasn't charged with anything relating to Libby that he would be free to go once the ones he had been charged with had been dealt with.

Never thought of him still been under investigation and on bail.

 

[Vermont24]

As far as I know, you can come and go within EEA countries with a national ID card rather than a passport, but surely that would be flagged.

Unless you mean...by surreptitious means?