Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #13 *ARREST*

[Joolz1975]

I think so. Though they have been ruled out as relevant by the police in this case!

I'm wondering if they are not relevant to Libby but are relevant to his other alleged crimes. Nice little burglar kit that.

 

[Plod]

A famous serial killer - some with an aspiration to be a serial killer/ sexual predator have aspirations/role medels- I just thought it to be interesting.Particularly if the hammer was brought out and later discarded, for whatever reason. The hammer just struck my memory of this polish SK hence sharing the link. Paweł Tuchlin - Wikipedia

Sounds a bit like Peter Sutcliffe. But the police were quite quick to rule out the hammer, chisel and lip gloss in this case.

 

[Newthoughts]

I definitely do not recall the word suspicious being used at all. Would be very interested to see that footage if anyone has it, please.

Here's the ITV footage: ITV News exclusive: CCTV captures car activity minutes before student Libby Squire was last seen in Hull

The reporter says "the car was here for approximately 20 minutes before it drove off down this road at exactly the same time that's it's believed Libby disappeared"

It says it on the report in the very link you've posted. Go down to the second video which is of the whole news item shown that night which culminates with the CCTV footage rather than just showing the footage. The reporter refers to suspicious activity in Haworth street just before playing the CCTV.

I'm sure the first time I saw that it referred to 20 minutes of suspicious activity.

 

[Skigh]

I was just wondering if PR's other offences had not come to light giving the police a chance to lock him up whilst they kept gathering
evidence and with the hope they would find Libby's body.Would they have charged him with abduction?

 

[floridagrrl]

Would PR risk the chance of being seen carrying Libby back to his car when he could use the cover of darkness in the park to reach the river there.

I think so.

He had his ding a ling in his hands in plain view of women that they were then able to do a very good sketch of him (to me anyway)

Women traumatised by creepy flasher outside home release 'E-fit'

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I'm sure the first time I saw that it referred to 20 minutes of suspicious activity.

It doesn't say that. Suspicious activity is mentioned at the beginning of the report, 20 minutes is referenced at the end. Not in the same sentence.

 

[Joolz1975]

This link refers to suspicious activity near the beginning and then at the end says the car was parked for approx 20 mins.

 

[Joolz1975]

It doesn't say that. Suspicious activity is mentioned at the beginning of the report, 20 minutes is referenced at the end. Not in the same sentence.

Beat me to it Cags.

It does mention both things but not in same sentence.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Sounds a bit like Peter Sutcliffe. But the police were quite quick to rule out the hammer, chisel and lip gloss in this case.

I was thinking about this earlier. They said it was not related to Libby's case, but they didn't say it was not related to PR. I can't recall whether the hammer etc was found and ruled out before or after PR got arrested.

EDIT: Haha @Joolz1975 - you beat me to it on this one!

 

[Joolz1975]

I was thinking about this earlier. They said it was not related to Libby's case, but they didn't say it was not related to PR. I can't recall whether the hammer etc was found and ruled out before or after PR got arrested.

EDIT: Haha @Joolz1975 - you beat me to it on this one!

Great minds Cags

 

[Plod]

I was thinking about this earlier. They said it was not related to Libby's case, but they didn't say it was not related to PR. I can't recall whether the hammer etc was found and ruled out before or after PR got arrested.

EDIT: Haha @Joolz1975 - you beat me to it on this one!

Yes they were. Hope this works:

'Just want you home' missing student told

Interesting though how it’s been worded - part of another investigation!!

 

[Enquirer-2019]

Great minds Cags

This Scorpian SK, stalked and was guilty of voyeurism, he spied women at the start, then jumped to murder....no in between. He attacked one 20 years old, when he got away with it killed 5 more within a year, and 9 in total. They could have been very lucky in Hull, if the POI turns out to be the one.

 

[Enquirer-2019]

There is a Scorpion SK - YOUTUBE DOC for anyone interested in the case

 

[Newthoughts]

It doesn't say that. Suspicious activity is mentioned at the beginning of the report, 20 minutes is referenced at the end. Not in the same sentence.

Thing is I've never watched that footage to the end. I can't. I stop when the man finishes smoking and walks away. So I will only have heard it at the start.

So I guess it must be just ITV tidying up so as not to say the same thing twice.

 

[Steleheart]

I was thinking about this earlier. They said it was not related to Libby's case, but they didn't say it was not related to PR. I can't recall whether the hammer etc was found and ruled out before or after PR got arrested.

EDIT: Haha @Joolz1975 - you beat me to it on this one!

The hammer and lip gloss were discovered on 3 feb at lunchtime
Screwdriver, hammer and lip gloss found by police amid new sighting

 

[Audiohoney]

Yes they were. Hope this works:

'Just want you home' missing student told

Interesting though how it’s been worded - part of another investigation!!

Oh that is interesting. The wording that they’re part of another investigation.

 

[Skigh]

I think so.

He had his ding a ling in his hands in plain view of women that they were then able to do a very good sketch of him (to me anyway)

Women traumatised by creepy flasher outside home release 'E-fit'

Thank you I had not seen this before. I wonder if he had become so bold as he had evaded detection for some time after doing the same thing.
Are there not Efits that bear a close resemblance to him in York?
But there is a great difference between doing this and being seen carrying a body to his car.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Thing is I've never watched that footage to the end. I can't. I stop when the man finishes smoking and walks away. So I will only have heard it at the start.

So I guess it must be just ITV tidying up so as not to say the same thing twice.

Why can't you watch it? It doesn't show much, you can't even really tell if the person is female, let alone Libby. Anyway, I am pretty certain the article hasn't been changed, so I think you must have got the 20 minute reference from posts here. Either way, it certainly doesn't say there was 20 minutes of suspicious activity. A statement like that would have been absolutely pounced on here and dissected to within an inch of its life!!

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Oh that is interesting. The wording that they’re part of another investigation.

Exactly. So they still could have been PRs.

 

[Marulinka]

I don't post all that often but here are my thoughts. I'm quite sure that it is Libby getting into PR's car. Here is why. We see a car identical to his parked very near where Libby is seated on the bench. Next we see someone resembling PR heading towards the direction of the bench. Then we see him return and see someone with him who plops (or is plopped) into the passenger seat. This is very near the time that Libby is last seen. If this were someone else, or if the police were not quite certain who it was, they would have said something by now. So Occam's Razor says that Libby was in PR's car shortly after last seen.

Next we have the screams in the park (I'm ignoring the gate closing noise, because that seems quite uncertain to me). Some people have said it may be foxes. Were there foxes screaming there other nights and did the ear-witnesses indicate that this was the case. I think probably not. What are the chances of foxes screaming on that one night only during a time that Libby could have been in the park? Unlikely, in my view. If Libby was screaming in the park, something happened there. If PR happened to drop his glasses (no way of knowing but I like this hypothesis) that would be something to search for, as it would not be likely that he would have just plain have the glasses fall from his face while on a stroll in the park.

The CCTV recording of the four people is also interesting. I think this was just a search for potential witnesses who may have heard or seen something. I can't think of any way this would directly relate to the case in other respects.

This is such a tragic case and really grabbed my attention for some reason. Something about Libby really seemed to call to me, and I do hope the police are on the right track and that there is sufficient evidence. I see no problem with someone who is responsible for the actions that PR has been charged with (if it really does turn out to be him) in escalating to more serious crimes. Not every criminal goes by the expected steps. This is all my opinion, and my heart hurts for the loss of Libby.

@BlueShoe Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree with all points you mentioned. Could not have said it better. RIP Libby