Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest* #2

[Niner]

Echoing my thanks for the updates.

@Niner : Some info. regarding this case. It goes to trial on 25 February 2020.

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial: Teenager pleads not guilty, trial date set

Thanks for the heads up, but I haven't followed this case. I guess I shall go back to thread #1 and catch up. I shall gather my info on the case as I read back and will put this case on my list.

 

[JosieJo]

I agree .. you do have to wonder at a not guilty plea .. either extremely "hopeful" or evidence borderline...two weeks is not that long either for a murder trial..unless there is a massive smoking gun

 

[Niner]

Okay - finally read all the posts....

Here's what I have since the last hearing - and if something is incorrect - please let me know! TIA!

Friday, December 13th:
*Hearing (@ am UK) – UK – Lindsay Birbeck (47) (from Huncoat; last seen ~ 2:30pm on Aug. 12, 2019 & walking towards Accrington on Burnley Road @ 4:06pm on CCTV; found Aug. 24, 2019 in the area of Accrington Cemetery on Burnley Road) - *16 year old boy arrested (8/27/19) on suspicion of murder & on 8/31/19 charged with murder. Plead not guilty.
Trial set to begin 2/25/20 & last for 2 weeks.
8/29/19 Update: Lancashire Constabulary has confirmed today (August 29) that his custody period has been extended. 8/31/19: August 31st) charged a teenage boy with the murder; due to appear before Blackburn Magistrates’ Court on Monday Sept. 2.
9/2/19 Update: The boy was remanded in secure accommodation until he appears at Preston Crown Court tomorrow (9/3/19). 9/3/19: His next appearance will be on December 13 when he will be asked to enter a plea.
12/13/19 Update: Entered a plea of not guilty. Mrs Justice Amanda Yip will be the presiding judge. Trial date is set for 2/25/20 & will last about 2 weeks.

 

[Bampot]

I agree .. you do have to wonder at a not guilty plea .. either extremely "hopeful" or evidence borderline...two weeks is not that long either for a murder trial..unless there is a massive smoking gun

I don't think evidence is borderline. Maybe I'm wrong here but taking his age into consideration I can imagine a simple 'I didn't do it'. And I think there will be a barrage of evidence against him. Jmo obviously.

Is two weeks a short trial length for murder? I'm not sure about these things.

 

[JosieJo]

I don't think evidence is borderline. Maybe I'm wrong here but taking his age into consideration I can imagine a simple 'I didn't do it'. And I think there will be a barrage of evidence against him. Jmo obviously.

Is two weeks a short trial length for murder? I'm not sure about these things.

Obviously trials vary but 2 weeks does seem on the lower side of average...eg Joanna Yates trial lasted 3.5 weeks and they have estimated around 5 weeks for the upcoming libby squire trial

 

[Alyce]

I agree Bampot, I think he's going to go for the ** I didnt do it ** defence.

Re the 2 weeks. I have seen this time period quoted in other trials and they always last for at least 4 weeks minimum.

 

[JosieJo]

I agree the trial predictions vary ..but having said that the original estimate is usually based on the amount of evidence to be presented..obviously can go either way ..Jo Yeates trial prediction was 4 weeks but was slightly less.
I do agree though it's very possible his background leans him toward denial of anything illegal no matter how much evidence

 

[CrimeDawg123]

This is clearly OT (and please delete if not appropriate) but I thought some here might be interested in this article. I first learned of Gypsies and Travellers when I saw them heading to Appleby with their horses for the fair. It is very fascinating to me their wagons and way of life. I don't know if this lad is exactly of these same people but I have read his people referred to as Travellers. The only thing I can even remotely compare Travellers to here in the US are the folks, nearly all gone now, called the Cedar Choppers. This article talks about them: Meet the Unruly Clan That Once Ruled the Hill Country

 

[crhedBngr]

Thanks for the heads up, but I haven't followed this case. I guess I shall go back to thread #1 and catch up. I shall gather my info on the case as I read back and will put this case on my list.

Thank you!

You are so diligent about court dates that I just assumed you were collecting data on it.

 

[Niner]

Will there be another hearing before trial starts on 2/25 - if anyone knows? TIA!

 

[Alyce]

Will there be another hearing before trial starts on 2/25 - if anyone knows? TIA!

Hi Niner

no, that’s it, next up is the trial.....

 

[Niner]

Thank you Alyce for your response! Much appreciated.

 

[Kaykedi]

Only 4 weeks and 3 days to go until the trial. Do we think the defendant may change his plea before, or, on the day of the trial?

 

[Ann Blyth]

Only 4 weeks and 3 days to go until the trial. Do we think the defendant may change his plea before, or, on the day of the trial?

Probably at the beginning of the trial, or a few days in, depends if he is going to test the evidence as much as he can and just ride it out, but I’ve seen stranger things happen at trials....

 

[Kaykedi]

9 days to go

 

[Kaykedi]

Is anyone going to Lindsay's trial?

 

[Niner]

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial set to begin next week

Tuesday, 18th February 2020, 4:37 pm
A 16-year-old boy, who cannot be named for legal reasons, will appear at Preston Crown Court on Tuesday, February 25th.

 

[Mommysleuth11]

Trial day today. I wonder if we will her anything or it will be slow starting. I have been keeping 1 eye on the thread as i knew the trial was coming up. Thoughts to Lyndsays family this week, cant imagine how hard it will be for them to get through.

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, February 25th:
*Trial set to begin (@ am UK) – UK – Lindsay Birbeck (47) (from Huncoat; last seen ~ 2:30pm on Aug. 12, 2019 & walking towards Accrington on Burnley Road @ 4:06pm on CCTV; found Aug. 24, 2019 in the area of Accrington Cemetery on Burnley Road) - *16 year old boy arrested (8/27/19) on suspicion of murder & on charged (8/31/19) with murder. Plead not guilty. Remanded to custody.
Trial set to begin on 2/25/20 & run for 2 weeks at the Preston Crown Court.

 

[Kaykedi]

Trial day today. I wonder if we will her anything or it will be slow starting. I have been keeping 1 eye on the thread as i knew the trial was coming up. Thoughts to Lyndsays family this week, cant imagine how hard it will be for them to get through.

I don't know what to expect with it being the trial of a juvenile. I have no experience of one