GUILTY UK - Lucy McHugh, 13, murdered,, Southampton, 25 July 2018

[Alyce]

11:12am

The court is now taking a short break.

 

[Tortoise]

Dear Michael Seymour

Please wake up and let us know what is going on. Don't worry about using up too many words, we don't have to worry about trees being cut down to save on paper. Also please tell us anything about SN's demeanour in the witness box. We know you can do it!

Yours truly, WS community

 

[Alyce]

It's very awkward for the CPS not calling SW to testify. It's the elephant in the courtroom. She apparently was satisfied that Lucy was lying about SN, she went through an investigation process with social services, and as her mother would be the one who would care the most about Lucy and be most watchful for any substantiation to what Lucy was telling friends and vigilant from thereon in to what was happening under her roof. She would make an excellent witness for the defence.

Social Services should also be called to give evidence, since they were also satisfied that nothing was going on in the house so I would expect them to have visited the home and assessed the risk the school pointed out, including Lucy being looked after by a group of men who were barely adults.

SW really would have been a very good defence witness - I presume they are not calling her ? as no doubt if they had indicated that they wanted to, then I think Prosecution would have decided to have her as their witness.

 

[Alyce]

The trial has resumed.

Mr Mousley asked Nicholson why he didn't tell police he had been at Tanners Brook to sell drugs.

He said he was advised to give a no comment interview.





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[Alyce]

11:46am

Nicholson said he didn't even had time to finish his cigarette before the drug deal was over and done with.

He said he could remember what time he had arranged the drug deal for but said he had made the arrangements either that morning or the evening before




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[Alyce]

Mr Mousley asked if Nicholson bagged the bloodied clothing and put that in another bag with the boxed trainers, before disposing of the first bag and its contents in Tanners Brook.

Nicholson said he did not dispose of anything at Tanners Brook.



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[Alyce]

Mr Mousley said he will turn to motive.

He asked Nicholson about his sexual history.

He asked if Nicholson had a "sexual interest in girls under 16".

Nicholson replied: "No."


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[Alyce]

Nicholson said witness evidence about trying to kiss a 14-year-old girl after doing a tattoo on her thigh was "incorrect".





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[Tortoise]

I wonder if they can prove he knew they were 14 when he gave them tattoos. He was 17 or 18 himself at the time of those claims I believe, which is not that big of an age gap, especially if they may have looked slightly older.

 

[Alyce]

 

[Tortoise]

Same on the Porton thread. It's the day of the slow reporter.

 

[Alyce]

12:09pm

Nicholson said he never slept with the witness, who cannot be named for legal reasons, who claimed she had sex with him in a wooded area earlier in the trial.

 

[Alyce]

12:20pm

Nicholson was then asked how he felt about Lucy and how he felt after he found out she died.

He said: "We didn't see eye to eye.

"I would describe her as a troubled child."

He said he was shocked when she died as was upset for Lucy's mum Stacey and step-dad Richard.

He added: "We didn't get along. I was upset for my friend."



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[LittleMystery]

Really wish they would tell us about SN’s demeanour and more about language used.

Regardless of whether they got on or not, it all becomes insignificant when it is the murder of a child!

His language and demeanour could be really telling as to whether he was able to recognise her as a child.

 

[Alyce]

12:40pm

Mr Mousley asked Nicholson how he felt about "the inconvenience that been caused... by a 13-year-old girl" after being asked to move out of the family home.

Nicholson said: "I wouldn't really say it was an inconvenience."

Mr Mousley asked what Lucy meant when she said she had a hold on Nicholson.

He said he believe it was about drugs.




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[Elainera]

It's apparent he did not like Lucy nor did he feel anything when she died. He comes across as a mix of stone cold and anger, almost hate, towards her. He couldn't care less. I believe this part, I don't think it's a show. So did he kill her in a fit of rage because of the pregnancy claim?

How will the jury feel about his attitude?

I'm starting to have some doubts that he had sex with her.

 

[Legally Bland]

12:20pm

Nicholson was then asked how he felt about Lucy and how he felt after he found out she died.

He said: "We didn't see eye to eye.

"I would describe her as a troubled child."

He said he was shocked when she died as was upset for Lucy's mum Stacey and step-dad Richard.

He added: "We didn't get along. I was upset for my friend."



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I think he's overdoing it in trying to show he had no feelings towards Lucy.

 

[Elainera]

DBM double post

 

[Alyce]

Mr Mousley puts it to Nicholson that "this is all nonsense".

He said Lucy's behaviour could be explained by what was going on between Nicholson and Lucy, "the sort of behaviour you had engaged with in the past with girls under 16 and it included sexual activity.

Nicholson said: "That's incorrect."

Mr Mousley said: "All her behaviour can be explained by what you were doing with her can't it?"

Nicholson said: "That's incorrect."

Nicholson agreed that Lucy was vulnerable.


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[Alyce]

12:57pm

The court has now adjourned for lunch.

The trial will resume at 2pm.