Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #10

[maxnewb]

She was late and there was no answer on her phone. In my opinion it is not surprising that he was getting worried.

I completely agree, I would be too. I'm not so sure I'd call the police immediately though.

 

[Fishwick]

Same. Myself and partner take dog walks in turn . We’re always out for approximately an hour on our regular circuit. It always varies depending upon who you might bump into and chat with. I don’t think either of us would go looking for each other unless we were drastically late back.
I read what he said and thought that was quite dramatic.. to go looking for her after just bring 15 - 20 mins late. But as you say, each family is different!

Not 15-20 late - he said 9.45 is normal, 10 is the later side, 10.15 is about the latest that she’d been out before and he started to get ready at 10.30. But he hasn’t set off when he got the call which if I remember correctly was 10.50.

 

[jemma742]

I’ve read somewhere that the person who found Willow tied the dog up with string is that correct? But wasn’t the harness and the lead found near by? Wouldn’t you just use the lead…?

String?! Either the report is incorrect or I’ve read it incorrectly .. or someone happened to be carrying string around.

 

[Beginnersleuth]

Same. Myself and partner take dog walks in turn . We’re always out for approximately an hour on our regular circuit. It always varies depending upon who you might bump into and chat with. I don’t think either of us would go looking for each other unless we were drastically late back.
I read what he said and thought that was quite dramatic.. to go looking for her after just bring 15 - 20 mins late. But as you say, each family is different!

Tbf he said she’d normally get back 9:45, maybe 10ish, occasionally but not that often she’d get back 10:20.
So when never been that late ever before then would start to get worried.
Like if you were expecting someone about 10 the latest & notice then, but think ah it’ll just be one of those rare times they’re 30 or so min later but then still not back at 10:30 when usually 9:45 ish. But was 10:50 ish when called by school then that’s an hour later than normal and very concerning circumstances.
So can see why he called the police. I don’t know if I’d have done the same or waited til I got there either tbh. If it was 999 and worried she’d gone in the river then makes sense to call asap

 

[CriLondon]

I would venture that the phone was ringing , on the bench , from PA's calls before he was called by the school .
Is this correct ?
If so , was anybody near the bench at that point , able to hear it ringing ?
May have lost some very precious time there , if this line of thought is correct .

 

[DaFroome]

I couldn't remember hearing that before. It just reinforces my accident theory. Maybe chasing after Willow to get the harness back on before going home. Trips, falls into water, bangs head on the rocks etc etc. Maybe.

Absolutely. I think it is a new fact. Previously suggested the harness was by the bench, not down the embankment. PA clearly states that’s where it was though.

 

[maxnewb]

Tbf he said she’d normally get back 9:45, maybe 10ish, occasionally but not that often she’d get back 10:20.
So when never been that late ever before then would start to get worried.
Like if you were expecting someone about 10 the latest & notice then, but think ah it’ll just be one of those rare times they’re 30 or so min later but then still not back at 10:30 when usually 9:45 ish. But was 10:50 ish when called by school then that’s an hour later than normal and very concerning circumstances.

Thanks, that time breakdown makes more sense.

 

[martinwatts5]

Interview states the harness found halfway down the embankment. Is that new?

In my opinion this firms up the theory that she fell as she was trying to put the harness back on the dog.

 

[Cranky]

The would you/wouldn't you call the police debate.....almost 14 years ago I had two police officers knock on my door. My husband was working away and I thought they'd come to tell me that he'd had an accident. He was dead - widowmaker heart attack. Until then if he was late or I was late neither of us was that bothered. What happened changed something - if bf now hasn't answered after a couple of calls I assume he's dead. He's as bad with me. I had a migraine the other day and he rang me to check I was home OK. I suppose once you lose that sense of security, that "everything is probably ok" sense then maybe you don't get it back. You don' know what people have had happen in their lives....JMO

 

[lvbut]

I would venture that the phone was ringing , on the bench , from PA's calls before he was called by the school .
Is this correct ?
If so , was anybody near the bench at that point , able to hear it ringing ?
May have lost some very precious time there , if this line of thought is correct .

Wasn’t it still connected to the Teams call? Maybe it wouldn’t ring out loud, or the phone was on silent? You might hear the vibrating if you were close enough, I suppose.

 

[GeorgeFormby]

Yes I fully respect his searching ability and ability to recover bodies from water when detected. But his public communications are very self absorbed and gratuitous and I think he is seriously messing with Nikki’s family and friends. I find it quite frightful, his patent need to influence a vulnerable person. Not saying it’s malicious but at best it’s very self absorbed.

Have family members who work in areas involving sudden bereavement and you have to be so careful what family members latch on to.

I agree. His name is everywhere. The conspiracy theorist within me, says that the fact the media lap it up, is by design, and the thin end of the wedge when it comes to privatising another public service. This is a police matter. If I had some advanced analytics system, to analyse crime scene evidence, my customer is the LE involved, and the success of my business is linked to the success that I bring to my customer (i.e. the Police). The general public are not my customer, so I have no need to talk directly to them, with conjecture, opinion, whatever. We live in a world of nonsense, where true political discourse and real science, has been usurped by utter rubbish and sensationalism, so perhaps this is just a symptom of a decline in society and proper journalism, rather than PF being a narcissistic PR carnival.

 

[pineapple23]

The footage he has is not from the day or time that Nikki disappeared and as a complex tidal river isn’t particularly helpful in addition to which they don’t know where she may have entered the water.

He said the water level would have been higher at the time in question. But presumably there would still have been rocks on the bottom. Yes she could have entered the water from another spot (and indeed might not have entered the water at all) but with the harness being found on the bank, a trip and a bang on the head at that spot are one possible scenario. IMO

 

[Cranky]

Duplicate post

 

[lvbut]

I would venture that the phone was ringing , on the bench , from PA's calls before he was called by the school .
Is this correct ?
If so , was anybody near the bench at that point , able to hear it ringing ?
May have lost some very precious time there , if this line of thought is correct .

Wasn’t it still connected to the Teams call? Maybe it wouldn’t ring out loud, or the phone was on silent? You might hear the vibrating if you were close enough, I suppose.

 

[MachinaCollecta]

IMO a bruise or physical damage of any sort to anyone involved in this case is as important if not more important than whether a gilet was made by Brand X or Brand Y, and there was page upon page of people 'obsessing' over that the other day.

PA isn’t named as a suspect and isn’t being sleuthed here at this time.

 

[pineapple23]

Doublepost

 

[themagiceye]

The police would have seen him face to face every day for the past two weeks.

Of course they have, but that's not the point.

 

[martinwatts5]

He was going to look for her then the school rang according to the Channel 5 interview.

 

[Tyzer]

<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> He said it himself tonight and so did the sonar guy.

 

[maxnewb]

Just read the interview at this link :

Morning Nicola Bulley vanished was 'different' to others, partner Paul Ansell says as he reveals when panic set in

NICOLA Bulley’s partner Paul Ansell says that the morning of the mum’s disappearance had already felt “different” before she vanished. Paul sat down with Channel 5&#821…

www.thesun.co.uk

That interview implies to me that he was getting worried something had happened at 10:20 because she was 20 minutes late and hadn't answered her phone a few times.

As I say, every family is different but at that point myself and the wife agree we wouldn't be going out looking unless there was a previously known cause for concern.

At the point of the school ringing at 10:50 then I would absolutely be in the car, but before then ? I don't think I would.

JMO.