Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

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  • #701
You are incorrect.
In what sense am I incorrect?
 
  • #702
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JMO

We on the outside do not know who these witnesses are. We do not know if NB fell in the river, we equally do not know if NB came to harm or foul play. IF, NB is not in the river, and it is ascertained that foul play is at play here, at what point will these 'witnesses' be more closely scrutinised and questioned?

Just because a witness, or anyone for that matter, says something, does not necessarily mean that it is true. Just because you live in the same area as someone, does not mean that you have to like them, or that you even like them at all.

This does not have to be overly complex at all. All it would take is the involvement of someone unhinged, maybe jealous of NB career, good looks or family, who was familiar with NB routine, (to be fair, look how much information us complete strangers have managed to find out with regards to her routine), for someone to be familiar with the local area, entry, exit points, any CCTV that does or does not work. If multiple people involved, then making NB 'disappear' becomes considerably easier. Especially if any perspective harm doers, just so happen to be any of the witnesses.

One thing is certain. What happened to NB, the answer or answers to that question remain firmly in the area. The answer to that question has never left the area. Either it being the river, or a 3rd party.
Yes, you make great valid points and none of us know if NB had a jealous unhinged rival. Anything is possible.

You’re also spot on about witnesses: just look at Ian Huntley who was a witness to the Soham murders…as it happens, I suspected him immediately and I believe the police did too. But he was a witness at first. So no-one knows what’s really happened to NB and <modsnip> It can’t be discounted…

I’ve always thought this was a simple but tragic accident, though reading your post and digesting your very valid points has made me wonder.

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  • #703
Which is around here I believe, the same path she entered on. See attached pic. IMO.
The bit you have circled is where the path heads onto Blackpool Lane - that's not Garstang Road down past the Grapes etc. Unless Google Maps is wrong?
 
  • #704
It is 13 miles out to sea. You’ll find that on Google. It’s also a tidal river and the tide starts in the area where it happened.

I’m useless at maths, but the I believe the tide flows at about 13ft a minute. Or thereabouts. So someone far brighter than me could work out how long it would take to reach the sea.
Thanks. I believe (says confidently) at 13ft per minute it would take 3.6 days (88 hours) to cover 13 miles.

This is of course free flowing at that speed, without interruption.
 
  • #705
I think that's just a typo, still says 09:10 in the timeline
Doesn't really inspire confidence though when they keep making these basic errors.
 
  • #706
They've added in the text message at 8:59am now too, as well as correcting the length of her coat so it agrees with the footage of her.

I'm still confused over which path they are on about though as "We can say with confidence that by reviewing CCTV, Nicola has not left the field during the key times via Rowanwater, either through the site itself or via the piece of land at the side." seems to contradict "Our enquiries now focus on the river path which leads from the fields back to Garstang Road."

I think the exit to Garstang Road by the river path is the one that goes alongside Rowanwater, or is this not the case?
Does that mean the way she went in? So on her way back - further than the bench
 
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The bit you have circled is where the path heads onto Blackpool Lane - that's not Garstang Road down past the Grapes etc. Unless Google Maps is wrong?
On Apple Maps it shows as Garstang road. See attached screenshot.
 

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  • #709
If you read the whole statement it says (9th para):

Nicola was last seen on Friday morning (January 27th) at around 9.20am on the upper field by the river off Garstang Road where she had taken her Spaniel Willow for a walk after dropping her children at school in the village.
Now this is interesting, if, and I repeat, IF, it is correct that her phone was on the bench at 9.20 and she was seen on the upper field at 9.20. Clearly most likely to be a mistake, but it did put my mind into overdrive the for a sec.
 
  • #710
I have always thought that an empty caravan site at this time of year is a good place to search.
I appreciate that it is supposed to be closed but what better time to hide someone there at this time of year.
I totally agree and have posted before saying the same thing. IMO it’s such a no-brainer that surely the police must have done it? JMO
 
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No, this isn't a thing. There is also no such thing as "river police".

Putting a net up could cause damage to the ecology of the river, and also could cause a back-up of debris, leaves, branches etc.
Not to mention a boat propellers could get entangled in it.

There is a weir in this river apparently, further downstream, which may act as a natural dam or 'collecting area'.
I don't know if Lancashire Police dive team searched that far......if they did, they didn't find anything there. No clues or body.
They have river police on the Thames in London…

The kind of trap netting I’m talking about is a temporary thing put down in emergencies. I’m certain I’ve seen it mentioned somewhere.
 
  • #713
They've added in the text message at 8:59am now too, as well as correcting the length of her coat so it agrees with the footage of her.

I'm still confused over which path they are on about though as "We can say with confidence that by reviewing CCTV, Nicola has not left the field during the key times via Rowanwater, either through the site itself or via the piece of land at the side." seems to contradict "Our enquiries now focus on the river path which leads from the fields back to Garstang Road."

I think the exit to Garstang Road by the river path is the one that goes alongside Rowanwater, or is this not the case?
I'm not sure , that is why I'm searching for images..
 
  • #714
<modsnip: Quoted post was removed> I live very local to barrowford. I can’t help but think of the case (also very local to me) of Lindsey Birbeck who went missing. Similar age to NB. Who they got for that murder doesn’t sit well with me. <modsnip: Reference info was removed>
 
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It’s here I think - the path she entered on. IMO.
Shows Garstang road on Apple Maps and Blackpool lane on google maps.
I'm not convinced your thoughts are correct. As you state it's Blackpool Lane on Google Maps and last week I'm fairly sure they consistently referred to this area as Blackpool Lane and they had this covered in "their timeframe". They referred to to "other side" of the area as "Garstang Lane/Road" as not being fully covered and I think they mean some path out that side.. via the wyreside caravan park, The Oaks, or near the Rowanwater bit.

But I'll need to re-read a few more times I think :-) As usual, as clear as the mud in the river ...
 
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It’s here I think - the path she entered on. IMO.
Shows Garstang road on Apple Maps and Blackpool lane on google maps.
Ah - thank you!

Also makes sense that if this is their CCTV blackspot they also don't have footage of her going into the area at the start of her walk.
 
  • #719
I'm not convinced your thoughts are correct. As you state it's Blackpool Lane on Google Maps and last week I'm fairly sure they consistently referred to this area as Blackpool Lane and they had this covered in "their timeframe". They referred to to "other side" of the area as "Garstang Lane/Road" as not being fully covered and I think they mean some path out that side.. via the wyreside caravan park, The Oaks, or near the Rowanwater bit.

But I'll need to re-read a few more times I think :) As usual, as clear as the mud in the river ...
Ok I’m just going by my Apple Maps application. It would make sense that they don’t have any CCTV of her aswell because that is a blackspot so wouldn’t have any of her entering the towpath either. JMO.
 
  • #720
Ah - thank you!

Also makes sense that if this is their CCTV blackspot they also don't have footage of her going into the area at the start of her walk.
I just said exactly the same thing to another poster. :)
 
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