Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

[cottonweaver]

Howard Millington used to be Detective Superintendent of GMP’s Serious Crime division

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[Woodburnbay]

Can’t believe this guy is being criticised the way he is. He offers for free, other chances of finding the body (or ruling out that it is there) plus a different approach to finding the body than has been used previously.

In addition, his input has further raised the profile of this case, at times when other news stories are pushing this one further down the order.

My own thought as per posting last Tuesday, is that NB is not in the river, or if she is then it was not an accident - just my opinions of course.

I have always thought that an empty caravan site at this time of year is a good place to search.
I appreciate that it is supposed to be closed but what better time to hide someone there at this time of year.

 

[PeggyHenry]

I have always thought that an empty caravan site at this time of year is a good place to search.
I appreciate that it is supposed to be closed but what better time to hide someone there at this time of year.

Surely this site will have been searched by now. I am really not clear on what they have searched so far. As you say, searching there makes a lot of sense

 

[Woodburnbay]

Not that I agree with this approach, but he's a former Detective Chief Inspector who worked on the Sarah Payne case.

Another mark William Thomas then

 

[JennieM]

The bottom line for me is he’s currently out there searching the river. Let’s hope it helps in some way.

If we were her family, I think we would all want him searching too - whether he is to a some or bigger extent self-serving.

 

[Knitty]

MOD NOTE:

Move on, please, from criticizing and bashing PF. It doesn't get Nicola found any quicker.

 

[kittythehare]

Surely this site will have been searched by now. I am really not clear on what they have searched so far. As you say, searching there makes a lot of sense

The presser outlined clearly what they had searched. Their land search was a 1 km radius from bench site. This included private lands and gardens and was conducted by experienced police searchers.
They have also supervised numerous public searches throughout the park every single day.
EDIT to add link to transcript of presser,
It is worth reading.

Found Deceased - UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

#MISSING | Have you seen Nicola Bulley, who has gone missing from home in Inskip? Nicola, 45, was last seen at around 9.15am today (Friday, January 27th) on the footpath by the river off Garstang Road in St Michael’s on Wyre. She is described as white, 5ft 3ins tall, with light brown...

www.websleuths.com

 

[shadwell]

Surely this site will have been searched by now. I am really not clear on what they have searched so far. As you say, searching there makes a lot of sense

Maybe - but it would need a fair few uniforms to do it properly and likely wouldn’t go unnoticed by the numerous journos up there currently.

 

[EyeSpyU]

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EXCLUSIVE: Forensic expert, Peter Faulding, says he believes Nicola Bulley ‘is not in the river at all’ and adds: “None of this rings right to me”

MISSING NICOLA… NEW TWIST: ‘Normally when a person drowns and are left a couple of days, they dont move far.

bromsgrovestandard.co.uk

He didn’t say that in his initial interview - <modsnip>

He also said if she was in the river he’d find her in just one day.

He’s changed his story in the one you’ve posted, just as he’s now changed his story again and said he believes she could be in the river.

And now says it may take 3 days to find her.

 

[GML1981]

As I really can’t think of much else than NB and her family, I have lots of thoughts round my head about what might have happened and a scenario came into my head that perhaps someone spooked her so bad near the bench she just took off as quickly as she could (fight or flight reaction) her phone was placed on the bench, willow was running around and she realises she is being watched/flashed at or someone is approaching her with a weapon and she just legs it, not even considering the phone, dog etc as she is in fear of her life. The perp follows her and attacks/abducts her.

 

[GTB72]

indeed !! But Hardang is in my head now ! Don’t know why

It's Garstang.

Everything we know as desperate search for Nicola Bulley enters its second week

Nicola went missing on Friday, January 27, and hasn't been seen since

www.lancs.live

 

[suzyjackson]

IMO

The amount of publicly available information regarding NB, her walk routines etc combined with the 'local knowledge' a 'local' would have dampens the sophistication level required but generally agree with you.

By public information I guess you mean Facebook and stava, to have seen either of those you would have had to have known they existed pre NBs disappearance, you would have had to actually know her name and have some kind of Ill intent
If that was the case you wouldn't be relying on checking her FB photos you'd already be in stalker territory

It's easy to think that because we know the info exists after the fact that someone was actively using it beforehand and imo that just doesn't happen

JMO

 

[Nikynoo]

Hi everyone. Joined WS during the awful Sarah Everard case and have been lurking on this one too.
Just seen PF now stating “I do believe she is in the river from the evidence we have”. Interesting. Perhaps there is evidence that we know nothing about yet?
(Hate to quote DM but here’s the link to the press interview )
Who is the 'Human Mole' leading the hunt for missing Nicola Bulley?

i didn't see that quote in the article you linked?

 

[infinit]

I wonder how much attention they've given to to the "Rowanwater" body of water, failing that unless someone has lucked out and taken her in a vehicle East on Garstang Road on the only route with minimal CCTV I really don't see anywhere else feasible for her to be or have gone.

 

[ginnyw]

This is the strangest case (IMO). It seems every day that nothing is possible and everything is possible all at the same time.

 

[flysleuthD]

Apologies for any typos..unsure why it's so difficult to post here without your text moving or

Hi, first time poster here. I strongly feel Nicola is in the river. Not the riverbed but far out to the sides of the riverbank. The river weir is a complex waterway with flood defences in place, upstream basins, the weir, the tidal pressures, different depths. The sides of the riverbank are dense ecological systems, sediments, rotten wood, years of riparian root systems, affected by flood water. Not to mention other riverbed waste all entwined up that riverbank could easily conceal a body for some time. Hopefully this new the art side sonas equipment will get right into that density. I've no idea how she ended up in the river and would never speculate but I myself have had a couple of close calls on dog walks with water so know its easier than people realise to end up in water and get into trouble very quickly. I do hope they find Nicola soon, i really do feel such compassion to this dreadful situation.
Update Also the old Manor house on the opposite side may well have cellars, bunkers that go far down under the gardens to the river, erosion from centuries of floods and natural decay could have created tiny caverns, all moo of course and sounds far fetched but entwined somewhere deep into that riverbanks history could be some answers

 

[markoid]

By public information I guess you mean Facebook and stava, to have seen either of those you would have had to have known they existed pre NBs disappearance, you would have had to actually know her name and have some kind of Ill intent
If that was the case you wouldn't be relying on checking her FB photos you'd already be in stalker territory

It's easy to think that because we know the info exists after the fact that someone was actively using it beforehand and imo that just doesn't happen

JMO

Concur.

 

[supersleuth123]

Quite a few people have said something like "surely XYZ place will have been searched" (e.g. referring to the caravan site). IMO, and going on the words of the presser where the police SIO Riley said the search "included open ground, empty buildings and their gardens". Here's the key point, the police simply cannot and will not search a private property (which includes the caravan site) without a warrant. Given that the police appear very confident this was as accident, have never mentioned a suspect, I think it is highly, HIGHLY unlikely that any private property has been searched.

 

[PandaMarch]

Yep and he says its time for an outside force to review the case as is normal procedure after 9 days.

someone mentioned that process on an earlier thread, although in my opinion I don't see why the police would let the public know that the case is being reviewed. Of course they may do now, in response to the pressure - MOO

 

[JennieM]

Quite a few people have said something like "surely XYZ place will have been searched" (e.g. referring to the caravan site). IMO, and going on the words of the presser where the police SIO Riley said the search "included open ground, empty buildings and their gardens". Here's the key point, the police simply cannot and will not search a private property (which includes the caravan site) without a warrant. Given that the police appear very confident this was as accident, have never mentioned a suspect, I think it is highly, HIGHLY unlikely that any private property has been searched.

Yes, they did emphasize empty buildings.