Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

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I have always thought that an empty caravan site at this time of year is a good place to search.
I appreciate that it is supposed to be closed but what better time to hide someone there at this time of year.
I know the police make mistakes but I can't imagine they haven't thought of that but if there's a tipline you should call it in just in case. I'm sure you'd feel awful if she was there and you hadn't passed on your suggestion.
 
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Can I ask where you read that?
I can’t remember the exact place I read it as I’ve seen so much, but I definitely did read that someone arrived to where the where the dog was at the bench very quickly after being called. It’s somewhere out there on the Internet…
 
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I have hung washing out, fed the cats etc while logged in to a team call!
Done a week's ironing whilst the waffle goes on and on. If I need to contribute I will via the message option, generally that was a team update call and they are particularly tiresome as there is always the 'all about me' who prolongs the call
 
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Quite a few people have said something like "surely XYZ place will have been searched" (e.g. referring to the caravan site). IMO, and going on the words of the presser where the police SIO Riley said the search "included open ground, empty buildings and their gardens". Here's the key point, the police simply cannot and will not search a private property (which includes the caravan site) without a warrant. Given that the police appear very confident this was as accident, have never mentioned a suspect, I think it is highly, HIGHLY unlikely that any private property has been searched.
Pretty trivial for them to look up on land reg who owns the place and ask their permission though. I wonder how much a refusal would increase suspicion?
 
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Update statement from the police - if you read the whole statement - the 9th paragraph down, it says last seen at 9.20am on the upper field now! When are they going to get it right!


Edited to add - what I gather from this is they are missing cctv footage from the area circled on the map (which is where she entered the path on the morning).

 

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Quite a few people have said something like "surely XYZ place will have been searched" (e.g. referring to the caravan site). IMO, and going on the words of the presser where the police SIO Riley said the search "included open ground, empty buildings and their gardens". Here's the key point, the police simply cannot and will not search a private property (which includes the caravan site) without a warrant. Given that the police appear very confident this was as accident, have never mentioned a suspect, I think it is highly, HIGHLY unlikely that any private property has been searched.
You are incorrect.
 
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Be interesting to know how far they managed to search today. Someone posted earlier it's about 13 miles to the sea, is that correct? PF said they could do about 10 miles a day, so you'd think by end the of tomorrow they'd have searched the entire possible area, pre-sea?
It is 13 miles out to sea. You’ll find that on Google. It’s also a tidal river and the tide starts in the area where it happened.

I’m useless at maths, but the I believe the tide flows at about 13ft a minute. Or thereabouts. So someone far brighter than me could work out how long it would take to reach the sea.
 
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Update statement from the police - it says last seen at 9.20am on the upper field now! When are they going to get it right!

That is not what it says.
8.26am- Nicola leaves her home address with her children

8.40am- Nicola drops the children off at school and has a brief conversation with another parent.

8.43am – Nicola walked along the path by the River Wyre towards the gate/bench into the lower field, having dropped her children off at school

8:47am (approximately) - A dog-walker – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her walking around the lower field with her dog. Their two dogs interacted briefly before the witness left the field via the river path

8.53am – She sent an email to her boss

8.59 am- She sent message to a friend

9.01am – She logged into a Teams call

9.10am (approximately) – A witness – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her on the upper field walking her dog, Willow. Work is ongoing today to establish exactly what time this was.

9.20- Her phone was back in the area of the bench

9.30am – The Teams call ended but Nicola stayed logged on

9.33am (approximately) – Nicola’s mobile phone and Willow were found at a bench by the river by another dog-walker.
 
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I am a little wary of experts who talk so freely and make such bold claims to the press. Surely if you were willing to help you should just reach out to police and family rather than journalists. I was always raised to mistrust people who said “always” and “never” with respect to PF (the body retrieval sonar “expert”). My own profession often has newspaper experts and they are so not viewed well from within the field!!
 
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That is not what it says.
8.26am- Nicola leaves her home address with her children

8.40am- Nicola drops the children off at school and has a brief conversation with another parent.

8.43am – Nicola walked along the path by the River Wyre towards the gate/bench into the lower field, having dropped her children off at school

8:47am (approximately) - A dog-walker – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her walking around the lower field with her dog. Their two dogs interacted briefly before the witness left the field via the river path

8.53am – She sent an email to her boss

8.59 am- She sent message to a friend

9.01am – She logged into a Teams call

9.10am (approximately) – A witness – somebody who knows Nicola – saw her on the upper field walking her dog, Willow. Work is ongoing today to establish exactly what time this was.

9.20- Her phone was back in the area of the bench

9.30am – The Teams call ended but Nicola stayed logged on

9.33am (approximately) – Nicola’s mobile phone and Willow were found at a bench by the river by another dog-walker.
It does say it in the opening few paragraphs if you read it all (9th para):

Nicola was last seen on Friday morning (January 27th) at around 9.20am on the upper field by the river off Garstang Road where she had taken her Spaniel Willow for a walk after dropping her children at school in the village.
 
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Picture still says 9:10. That was the sighting they wanted to narrow down further the time of wasn't it?
If you read the whole statement it says (9th para):

Nicola was last seen on Friday morning (January 27th) at around 9.20am on the upper field by the river off Garstang Road where she had taken her Spaniel Willow for a walk after dropping her children at school in the village.
 
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This is the missing link.

Our enquiries now focus on the river path which leads from the fields back to Garstang Road – for that we need drivers and cyclists who travelled that way on the morning of January 27 to make contact. We have already done a lot of work around this, but every piece of footage helps us build up a picture of movements on that morning.

 
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It does say it in the opening few paragraphs if you read it all (9th para):

Nicola was last seen on Friday morning (January 27th) at around 9.20am on the upper field by the river off Garstang Road where she had taken her Spaniel Willow for a walk after dropping her children at school in the village.
typo obviously.
 
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This is the missing link.

Our enquiries now focus on the river path which leads from the fields back to Garstang Road – for that we need drivers and cyclists who travelled that way on the morning of January 27 to make contact. We have already done a lot of work around this, but every piece of footage helps us build up a picture of movements on that morning.

Which is around here I believe, the same path she entered on. See attached pic. IMO.
 

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If walked by the bank, it will head for the scent of foxes, badgers, water rats, squirrels, and voles. It will check tree trunks to see if any other dog has marked them as territory, and it will then mark them itself, so there. Take that, you mutts. If it sees any birds in the field, it will probably charge at them to see if they can still fly, and be amazed to find they can. If you throw something for it, the dog will chase after it, fetch it back, chew on it and may consider returning it to you. It will investigate other dogs it meets, and will try to figure out which dogs went with which tree trunk.

It will focus completely on dog-type stuff.

The dog has unfortunately probably more or less forgotten who NB is by now. If you put your dog into kennels while you go on holiday, when you come back to pick it up two weeks later, it will probably have scant idea who you are.
I can promise my dogs have never forgotten me when I have put them in kennels and when my husband comes back from going fishing they are very excited indeed to see him!
 
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