Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

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It was ON the bench as clarified in presser questions here

Reporter - How was the phone known to be on the bench at 9:20 exactly?

Superintendent - Through telephony enquiries that we've done, relative to the phone itself, rather than through a witness.


They have now changed that to Bench Area, at 9:20 in their latest presser.
 
  • #762
For anyone who missed this further back in the thread, a new photo has been today released showing NB and Willow heading to the car on that day, so presumably another one from NB's own doorbell-camera footage. I'm still surprised there's been no other pictures released by the police.
 
  • #763
They have now changed that to Bench Area, at 9:20 in their latest presser.
Well the presser addressed a specific question from a reporter, the bench is actually in the bench area.
 
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Thanks. I believe (says confidently) at 13ft per minute it would take 3.6 days (88 hours) to cover 13 miles.

This is of course free flowing at that speed, without interruption.
Thank you, Jeremy.

In that case, if NB did fall into the river and hasn’t got lodged against something there’s the horrendous possibility she’s out at sea. God, how heartbreaking!
 
  • #767
Willow would have followed her had she gone to the caravan park…and would definitely have barked furiously had she been attacked. She certainly would have hung around the bench.
How would willow have got through the gate?
 
  • #768
Good map from link.
Apologies if this has already been asked-has anything been mentioned about her usual route through this park? She doubled back, was this normal? How does she usually exit?
 
  • #769
How do you know that? Please do not criticise the Police without factual evidence. I absolutely applaud them for what they are doing - they are putting their own lives at risk. This is an incredibly perplexing situation as there is not firm forensic evidence either way. However, everyone is exploring all avenues and we all want the best outcome. Unless you know otherwise please do not criticise those on the ground trying to find Nicola.
It's not true, I couldn't be bothered to look for articles though. They had underwater divers on the first weekend.
 
  • #770
INTERVIEW WITH PETER FAULDING

6TH FEBRUARY

Faulding
- We've got a specialist bit of kit, high frequency side scan sonar which we've got a very high hit rate. I was the first to bring it into the UK, in 1999, and to have pioneered the use of it over here, so I can find anything with that and if Nicola is here, I'm happy that we will find her, if she is in the river.

Reporter - What's your search plan? Obviously, there's a weir on the way here. Do you search from the bench to the weir first? Do you go from the weir downwards?

Faulding - We've been tasked by Lancashire Police, we're working closely with them, so we're going to be coming down from the weir and we're going down towards the estuary, but it's a fair stretch of river and we'll be looking at the bottom. It is deep in places, shallow in places, so it's not so much of a challenge, it's more of a slower process. Normally we can cover about 10 miles of river a day with a sonar but this is quite a windy river. But it's not that wide, it's not that fast moving, so it should be quite straightforward.

Reporter
- Do you worry that if the police theory is correct, as it stands at the moment, she went into the water - Do you worry that her body could have gone into the sea?

Faulding - I think it's a bit of a long stretch to go to the sea. From my experience, normally drowning victims go in and they're normally within 200/300 metres or very near where they went in, so I don't think she would have gone a long way. The river is not in flood, from the first time I've seen it today. If we had storms and there was lots of flood water then I would expect in the high flow for a body to get carried but once a drowning victim goes to the bottom they tend to stay on the bottom for 7 or 8 days and they, sort of, just move slowly along the bottom. That again... if it's flooded, that's different, but it's not.

Reporter - Do you believe that she is in the river? I think you might have cast some doubt on that.

Faulding - Well, I think the police - they're doing the right thing. The clear evidence is - the phone was by the river, the dog harness was by the river, so I think that's their only clue at the moment and we've got to be able to eliminate this river. So we can either confirm or deny what's in here today.

Reporter - In terms of those conversations with police, you say you're working with them closely - How confident do you think the police feel that that's what's happened, that she's gone in the river?

Faulding - I believe.. the police I believe, I think, that she's in here and obviously that's where the evidence is actually pointing us at the moment. The police are doing a great job. It's a big task for Lancashire police to do. This is a particularly long stretch of river to search and we just bring that backup resource to work closely with them, at this instant.

Reporter - We understand that Paul (Nicola's partner) called you personally. What can you tell us about that conversation you had with him?

Faulding - Well, Paul called me the other day to.. we spoke and he was then speaking to Lancashire Police to bring us in. That afternoon there was bit of miscommunication but they agreed to bring us in, because we do the police diving anyway for the whole of the South East. So we're a well known police operational team and we bring that expertise and we've got a very good working relationship with Lancashire Police at the moment.

Reporter - Was it difficult talking to Paul?

Faulding - Paul is extremely distraught. I've just spoken to him, just now, where we're staying and my thoughts go out to the family and friends. It's a very difficult time. I'm used to dealing with families of drowning victims, it's a horrible thing to be going through, not knowing where your loved one is and that's the.. if anyone puts them in his mind, it's is a horrible thing. You don't know where your mind is.

Reporter - If Nicola isn't found are you confident to say that she isn't in the River?

Faulding - Yes. If we can't find her in the next three or four days in this river, if she's not here, then I'm confident she's not in this stretch of river. I'd be very confident of that.

Reporter - How long are you expecting to be here today?

Faulding - I don't know how long we're going to be here. We'll probably be up here, operationally, probably for the next three or four days working. We'll do what we can for the family and to assist Lancashire Police as well so...

Reporter - And how often do you get requests like you have from Paul?

Faulding - We get a request a fair amount from families when they can't find loved ones.

Reporter - How often do you commit to them like this?

Faulding - It's very difficult operationally sometimes. We help occasionally with requests but it's very very difficult because we're an operational team, but this week we've got a free'ish diary so I could put resources up here and we are not charging. To make it clear we are not charging the police or the family for this operation and the family have actually, kindly accommodated us with some friends. So that's made our life a lot easier to be fair.

Reporter - And do you believe that she is in this water?

Faulding - I do believe she's in here, from the evidence we've got at the moment. I mean, that is what everything is pointing to the river at the moment. And there's no, there doesn't seem to be a third party involved.
 
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Apologies if this has already been asked-has anything been mentioned about her usual route through this park? She doubled back, was this normal? How does she usually exit?
A previous poster mentioned it was a normal route for NB from the data on her strava account.
 
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For anyone who missed this further back in the thread, a new photo has been today released showing NB and Willow heading to the car on that day, so presumably another one from NB's own doorbell-camera footage. I'm still surprised there's been no other pictures released by the police.
I don’t think they have any - if she was in the contained area of the field and entered and exited at Garstang Rd / Blackpool lane (where there may or may not be a blackspot) then it’s possible they have no CCTV. Hence why they are asking for dashcam footage imo. Which is in itself worrying as if there was a perp involved, he would have evaded cameras too. JMO. That’s why I asked previously about if you could continue walking along the towpath past the Garstang road/Blackpool lane exit without going up to the road. Because that could be an exit route which equally avoided cctv. IMO.
 
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In my opinion I can’t see why it is ‘a 10 minute window’. The last sighting was 9.10, the phone and dog were found at 9.33. I believe they do not know what happened between those times apart from the phone ending up on the bench at 9.20.
 
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Putting together Peter Faulding's change of view (now she's likely in the river?), and the fact that SGI started their search below the weir (counter to what PF had said that drowning victims are usually found near to where they went in)... It seems likely that PF has been given more information from the police, and I am thinking it might be Fitbit data.
 
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I don’t think they have any - if she was in the contained area of the field and entered and exited at Garstang Rd / Blackpool lane (where there may or may not be a blackspot) then it’s possible they have no CCTV. Hence why they are asking for dashcam footage imo.
I agree that it's likely they have no CCTV of her (of relevance/on her walk). I think it's all witness statements that have placed her around the area at the start/during her walk.
 
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Thanks. I believe (says confidently) at 13ft per minute it would take 3.6 days (88 hours) to cover 13 miles.

This is of course free flowing at that speed, without interruption.
Would that be the same speed when at the floor bottom to when the body resurfaced? Which I've read can take a week or more for the gases to build up.
 
  • #777
Thank you, Jeremy.

In that case, if NB did fall into the river and hasn’t got lodged against something there’s the horrendous possibility she’s out at sea. God, how heartbreaking!
Libby Squire's body was in the river Hull for 7 weeks before she was very fortunately seen and retrieved just entering the sea. It was the same time of year. She vanished 31st January and similar weather conditions. I think the river Hull is a bit longer and tidal. The conditions in the two rivers could be different. Let's just hope that if very sadly NB is in the river she moves slowly like Libby and is found before the sea.
 
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Video of her route that morning.
Apologies if this has already been asked-has anything been mentioned about her usual route through this park? She doubled back, was this normal? How does she usually exit?
Don't know is the answer. But I think someone up thread posted her route according to her Strava account. Can't for the life of me remember who.
 
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For anyone who missed this further back in the thread, a new photo has been today released showing NB and Willow heading to the car on that day, so presumably another one from NB's own doorbell-camera footage. I'm still surprised there's been no other pictures released by the police.
I'm wondering how these vague blurry photos, showing more or less nothing, are relevant...? What am I missing here...?
 
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Mr.Faulding found my daughters friend in a Kent tidal river a few years ago. His knowledge is amazing & so is their equipment. I have every faith in him & his team. If they don't locate her. The river can be ruled out for sure.
But if NB fell in the river, providing she didn’t get caught up in strong weeds or suchlike, she could be in the sea by now.
 
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