Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

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Makes me question, and as did formet det. Peter Becksly on GMB, why was the bench not taken away for forensic examination, or tented off so that it could be througouhly examined.
Dunno, I am not employed by the police. I am sure those more qualified do though?
 
  • #942
Even poorer given back in the first Press Confrence RIley did she requested the footage from Garstang Lane - There is no read called Garstang lane
Apparently there is on Apple maps.. just sayin'
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Makes me question, and as did formet det. Peter Becksly on GMB, why was the bench not taken away for forensic examination, or tented off so that it could be througouhly examined.
It's a missing person inquiry. There are barely enough skilled forensic specialists to deal with actually confirmed serious crime scenes. There are circa 350k missing people reports per year. It is literally impossible.

JMO.
 
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I don't think it's a boating sort of river there really, it does have shallow parts as well as deep ones, and there's the weir just downstream. Canoe/kayaking yes, boats I dunno.
Ah right .. thanks for clarifying.. I guess that wouldn’t be likely then.. such a baffling case I really feel for the family they must feel like they are going mad trying to work out what’s happened :(
 
  • #945
Does anyone else feel as though their thoughts on this case have been thrown up in the air today?

Right now, the river looks bigger than I imagined, and while I sadly still think NB is in there somewhere, the events of today have shaken lose a couple of theories. My thoughts remain with NB and her family.

I went the other way - it was narrower, slower and the banks less steep than I had imagined. But I’m used to the Thames in London which is fast and massive.

Granted I’ve done quite a bit of wild swimming and lifesaving practice, but I’m the same size as NB and I wouldn’t anticipate major difficulty getting out of the Wyre there. The biggest challenge is simply the cold water shock. As long as you keep your head above the water it doesn‘t take that long to acclimatise and your breathing to calm down.

Also - to the left of the bench there is actually a tree growing right down in the river. So you could just head for that to hold onto and/or to help you get out.

NB most people who fall into the Thames are found. I live near it and I can’t think of a case where someone fell in and wasn’t found. Even the Marchioness disaster - they found all the bodies, someone I knew among them.
 
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Apparently there is on Apple maps.. just sayin'
edited to add link to post referencing same
Maybe that's where the dubiaty comes from then. LP might well be using Apple Maps as their benchmark.
 
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It's a missing person inquiry. There are barely enough skilled forensic specialists to deal with actually confirmed serious crime scenes. There are circa 350k missing people reports per year. It is literally impossible.

JMO.
95% of MP reports are resolved in a few days. That Only leaves 5%..
 
  • #949
Has there been any mention of the brick building on the footpath between the lower field and the river? I thought it was quite small but after watching (
) earlier it appeared quite large at 2:15 into the video. Assuming this is the same building, can anyone clarify?
 

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Just wondering if anybody knows what this is circled on Google maps. Is it some kind of bridge ? I understand there is are two separate paths you can take back towards Blackpool Ln/Garstang. The one NB came through at the turn style and then another step over gate to the left (if your looking towards Blackpool lane bench side) <modsnip: No approved source link> Is there an exit on this path either back on to path NB came from or out to Blackpool lane? Does this path lead to what I have circled? Or is just a fenced off field?
 

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  • #951
Makes me question, and as did formet det. Peter Becksly on GMB, why was the bench not taken away for forensic examination, or tented off so that it could be througouhly examined.
It was thoroughly examined on the morning of her disappearance.









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Hi there, to clarify we did evidence-gathering work around the bench when Nicola was first reported missing. The tape that has been put up today is simply to keep people away from the water’s edge while searches are continued. This is for the safety of divers.
 
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A few murmurings on twitter of activity near shard bridge
 
  • #954
Maybe that's where the dubiaty comes from then. LP might well be using Apple Maps as their benchmark.
That's what I reckon too..
I don't use Apple so I wouldn't have found it myself.
 
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Just wondering if anybody knows what this is circled on Google maps. Is it some kind of bridge ? I understand there is are two separate paths you can take back towards Blackpool Ln/Garstang. The one NB came through at the turn style and then another step over gate to the left (if your looking towards Blackpool lane bench side) There is a video circulating with a man and dog at night showing the man step over it. Is there an exit on this path either back on to path NB came from or out to Blackpool lane? Does this path lead to what I have circled? Or is just a fenced off field?
It's the weir. Below that the river is tidal.
 
  • #957
Putting together Peter Faulding's change of view (now she's likely in the river?), and the fact that SGI started their search below the weir (counter to what PF had said that drowning victims are usually found near to where they went in)... It seems likely that PF has been given more information from the police, and I am thinking it might be Fitbit data.
Faulding - I do believe she's in here, from the evidence we've got at the moment. I mean, that is what everything is pointing to the river at the moment. And there's no, there doesn't seem to be a third party involved.
I do also wonder whether it's possible to get data directly from Fitbit, either from their servers or somehow remotely off the Fitbit, without it needing to have synced to the phone. Not 100% certain though.
Only if they had the fitbit itself. MOO
The Fitbit data being behind the police believing she is in the nearby river is a good hypothesis.
I am, however, at the moment, not convinced that this is the information they have. They were super sure of no third party involvement and the river very early on. Yet, only a few days ago they said that they are looking into the Fitbit data. Additionally, her friend has stated that the Fitbit last synced several days before the incident - which sounds like it was only synced manually if someone pressed "sync". Now, it is possible that they took her phone to the location, managed to get a connection to the fitbit, and got the data. But would 1) the battery last long enough for them to do that and 2) they not have focused on a more specific area on their search right as that happened, as the bluetooth range is rather small?

Like I said, it's a good guess! But it seems to me like that bit of information they are holding onto is something else.
No, I have no idea what that could be.
 
  • #958
The police acting hypothesis remains the most likely explanation for the puzzling disappearance of NB. However there remain for me a couple of problems.

First of all the level of media attention was considerable from the outset. I’m familiar with news management and how distractions are welcomed by a government facing uncomfortable political news, but nonetheless it seems that media were quickly alerted that there might something more than an unfortunate accident lying at the heart of this story.

The second problem is the nature of the ‘issue’ or ‘event’ which caused NB to fall into the water. Many on here have offered possibilities but none really convince. NB was a fit woman, an experienced dog walker who knew the area well and unlikely to be careless or reckless around a river bank. Of course one moment of distraction might prove fatal but it’s just not clear what caused that to happen.
 
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Hello Everyone, I have been following this case pretty closely and I am also on another group concerning the case of Nicola.... this is and isn't case related but it would appear that Nicola was posting pretty publicly about her private routines and Strava routes on certain social media.... I feel so strongly about this that I am going to put a little timely reminder on my work WhatsApp Group which is all women that such information should remain private and not for public consumption in the interests of safety. I do fully accept and apologise if admin do not allow but personally I think this has to be said for the welfare of folk ....
 
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