Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

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This is confusing me now...
The good thing is that they are going upstream tomorrow starting at the bench area which i think is what everyone wanted .IMO
 
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but would be really interested to see at test of a water/ sea rescue manikin in the place and see what happens to it.
 
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A few of you are wondering if Peter Faulding has seen the fitbit data. (Unlikely unless they have the actual fitbit IMO) However it does seem that NB a big Strava user. She's got a pro Strava account, and hadn't bothered updated her fitbit for a few days. I'm wondering whether she recorded her Friday walk with the strava app on her phone, maybe using Strava Beacon, which would show her location whilst holding the phone more accurately than phone mast data. It's also unlikely because it would drain a lot of battery when she was meant to be on a teams call, but just putting it out there as a JMO idea.

Wouldn’t this show on the strava account? The last recorded walk was on 7th November 2022.
 
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I wonder why he is searching the river if he really believes that. Why waste your time?
He has flip flopped more than a fish out of water.
 
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Just wondering if anybody knows what this is circled on Google maps. Is it some kind of bridge ? I understand there is are two separate paths you can take back towards Blackpool Ln/Garstang. The one NB came through at the turn style and then another step over gate to the left (if your looking towards Blackpool lane bench side) There is a video circulating with a man and dog at night showing the man step over it. Is there an exit on this path either back on to path NB came from or out to Blackpool lane? Does this path lead to what I have circled? Or is just a fenced off field?
It’s the weir I think. The picture looks to have been taken in summer with the water level being low.

There’s a stile next to the bench which gives access to that field. Down by the weir there is a building which has vehicle access via a gated track with access from allotment lane.
 
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I wonder why he is searching the river if he really believes that. Why waste your time?

For the family’s sake..
 
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I went the other way - it was narrower, slower and the banks less steep than I had imagined. But I’m used to the Thames in London which is fast and massive.

Granted I’ve done quite a bit of wild swimming and lifesaving practice, but I’m the same size as NB and I wouldn’t anticipate major difficulty getting out of the Wyre there. The biggest challenge is simply the cold water shock. As long as you keep your head above the water it doesn‘t take that long to acclimatise and your breathing to calm down.

Also - to the left of the bench there is actually a tree growing right down in the river. So you could just head for that to hold onto and/or to help you get out.

NB most people who fall into the Thames are found. I live near it and I can’t think of a case where someone fell in and wasn’t found. Even the Marchioness disaster - they found all the bodies, someone I knew among them.
Great post, I also lived near the Thames. Slightly different situation here I think but I am no expert. The Thames is wider, the Wyre is much narrower and deeper in certain places. I am not a great swimmer but I would like to think it would be natural to fight to survive. Nicola was wearing heavy clothing and boots and sadly I think the shock of cold water would make it very tough for her to swim once in and there may not have been anything for her to hang on to. I am really hoping that this is not the case and there is an alternative explanation. My thoughts again to her family.
 
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Looking at the distance between the bench and the river, it seems like if someone tripped they’d have enough time to stop themselves from falling into the river unless falling with great force or they fell directly from the river edge. If the dog was at the edge of the river, surely it would make more sense and be safer to start to walk off so that the dog follows you. And if it was the harness that fell, would you go down to the edge of the river to retrieve it? Obviously everyone’s different but I would probably leave it and use the lead instead if it looked dangerous. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/1675649920394-png.400490/
 
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He has flip flopped more than a fish out of water.

I think police coaxed him a bit today, make
out we are on the same page so to speak. Now he has been in the river today he may have a better feel for it. Jmo IMO
 
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but would be really interested to see at test of a water/ sea rescue manikin in the place and see what happens to it.
I think there are so many variables. It could be different every time you test even in the same location.

I did wonder though if dropping a beacon of some kind in the water on day 1 just to track it’s route to get an idea of the speed of the river in certain places would be useful.
 
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I think police coaxed him a bit today, make
out we are on the same page so to speak. Now he has been in the river today he may have a better feel for it. Jmo IMO
Yes that’s what I am thinking
 
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Im sure I remember reading that house keys were attached to the dog lead or harness - will see if I can find a source
 
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but would be really interested to see at test of a water/ sea rescue manikin in the place and see what happens to it.
This was mooted way back. I think it was discounted as being impractical due to the varying conditions.
 
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It’s the weir I think. The picture looks to have been taken in summer with the water level being low.

There’s a stile next to the bench which gives access to that field. Down by the weir there is a building which has vehicle access via a gated track with access from allotment lane.
Thank you
 
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I wonder why he is searching the river if he really believes that. Why waste your time?
Is it a mishmash of old reports mixed with new?
i swear, I'm utterly defeated.
 
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