Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #8

[tedtink]

Given that it was reported that NB had just sorted her own mortgage and had just got a new client, does anyone think the 26 Jan announcement on a likely interest rates rise the following week could be significant?

Bank of England to make interest rates announcement - what we know so far

The Bank's interest rates have a major influence on other rates all across the UK and could directly affect people's finances

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Bank of England to raise interest rates 50 points next week

The Bank of England is set to hike interest rates 50 basis points to four per cent next week, markets are betting.

www.cityam.com

I interpreted it that she had sorted 'her mortgage' as a client's mortgage (her mortgage as in a work mortgage) not her own personal mortgage.


"We took them home, Nicola had had a meeting with her boss in Garstang and she said can you stay a bit later because I have an important client coming in on Zoom.
"We said no problem and stayed. She had done her work and she was very upbeat about getting her mortgage sorted.
"I said we better go now and Nicola came to the front door, and I gave her a kiss and told her I loved her and that was the last conversation I had with her."

Missing mum texted her friend a significant message minutes before going missing

Mum-of-two Nicola Bulley, 45, disappeared while walking her springer spaniel along a river towpath in St Michaels on Wyre, Lancashire, after dropping her daughters at school

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[Cuko]

They need to do land searches also now I think now to rule out whether if she did manage to get out. Where did she go ? Disorientated and how far could she have got. Could she have hidden herself exhausted

If she’d got out of the water and hidden herself somewhere, exhausted, her dog would have scented her even if a mile or two away. JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

Interesting. I thought it was said it was deeper. Maybe they are standing on a ledge, and there's a bigger drop not far away from that edge. Or maybe that diver is a giant.

Faulding says it's a foot at the edge aka 30cm ( yes further away it is deeper still)

It looks deeper than 30cm at the water's edge. ( there's a ton of photos of them working this spot 6 days ago. They weren't wading, shin-deep aka 30cm)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623267514464477187

 

[steelo]

If NB did go into the river, somehow managed to stay afloat/alive, albeit without making herself known to anyone else, and managed to get herself out of the river somewhere else, then surely there is a very high probability that hypothermia could've killed her before she managed to get back to a road/public path to make herself known.

Surely the search now needs to focus on a mile or so either side of the river downstream to the sea.

 

[grey345]

I now think by far the most likely explanation is lured/bundled into car at the CCTV blind spot road. By a deviant individual. A Sarah Everard type situation.

The experts seem certain she isn’t in the river.

Other theories involving friends and family etc are too far fetched.

As far as I can see it’s the only option left.

 

[Beginnersleuth]

After how long was he found?

https://www.lep.co.uk/news/nicola-bulley-we-know-her-familys-pain-say-preston-family-who-lost-a-son-in-the-same-stretch-of-river-on-the-same-day-45-years-ago-4019028

Says 2 months

 

[scottishgal]

Not suggesting that there was an imposter at all.
Suggesting the CCTV footage is incorrect.

Oh I see, thanks for clarifying

 

[karakuchi]

On the incorrect CCTV point:
Keep in mind, we haven't had any other CCTV from Police of NB on her walk.
The only images released are by Emma White via BBC.

A simple image of Nicola on route that morning would disprove this,
but it's not available.

 

[bringmeacupoft]

In your link he says 1ft "below the bank onto rocks "........."it's about 3.5 - 4m deep in the middle"

My interpretation from what he's saying could mean there may be a difference between a potential fall or a potential jump IMO. But still begs the question, where is she?

JMO

Yes so I’d say she wouldn’t fall into the middle of the of the river. I think he’s saying to justify his theory that’s she’s not in the river at all.

 

[Lincolnshirelad]

https://www.lep.co.uk/news/nicola-bulley-we-know-her-familys-pain-say-preston-family-who-lost-a-son-in-the-same-stretch-of-river-on-the-same-day-45-years-ago-4019028

Says 2 months

Edit - thats a second one! Got the names wrong. My bad.

Interesting although.

This is the one I confused it with due to the location body was found as its exactly the same

Boy, 2, drowns in river tragedy

DESPITE a frantic search by police and Coastguard services, a two-year-old boy was found drowned on Monday (May1) after he disappeared from the…

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk

Police helicopters were launched and the coastguard called out as members of the public joined in the search along the banks during high tide.

But two hours later when the tide receded the body of Reece Maybury from Rochdale was found on a mudbank at the side of the river, near the foot of the Shard Bridge.

 

[JeremyBentham]

As we have said before, the daily mail and such are notorious for misreporting. I remembered this one hence I knew the 2 hours as we brought it up privately at the start of this conversation.

"Police helicopters were launched and the coastguard called out as members of the public joined in the search along the banks during high tide.

But two hours later when the tide receded the body of Reece Maybury from Rochdale was found on a mudbank at the side of the river, near the foot of the Shard Bridge."

This is the original news article in 5th May 2000

Boy, 2, drowns in river tragedy

DESPITE a frantic search by police and Coastguard services, a two-year-old boy was found drowned on Monday (May1) after he disappeared from the…

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk

Sad. The article seems to state he was found half a mile away, is that right? So he traveled half a mile within the 2 hours. Could have been less of course, but no longer than two hours.

 

[Just-a-random-girl]

I interpreted it that she had sorted 'her mortgage' as a client's mortgage (her mortgage as in a work mortgage) not her own personal mortgage.

JMO

Quote from father (source below): "We took them home, Nicola had had a meeting with her boss in Garstang and she said can you stay a bit later because I have an important client coming in on Zoom.

"We said no problem and stayed. She had done her work and she was very upbeat about getting her mortgage sorted"

Missing mum texted her friend a significant message minutes before going missing

Mum-of-two Nicola Bulley, 45, disappeared while walking her springer spaniel along a river towpath in St Michaels on Wyre, Lancashire, after dropping her daughters at school

www.mirror.co.uk

Mentioned separately to her work so could have been a personal re-mortgage. If it had not been signed at that time, feasible it could be affected by a rates rise announcement. So, another thing that isn't clear.

 

[suzyjackson]

I don't want to speculate, out of respect for NB and family, and anyone affected by the very sad scenario put forth above. Just that in her FB photos, Willow has a retractable lead so unless it was replaced with a different type...well you know. Jmo.

There are photos of both a lead and a harness, I don't know what you mean

 

[rhino]

As we have said before, the daily mail and such are notorious for misreporting. I remembered this one hence I knew the 2 hours as we brought it up privately at the start of this conversation.

"Police helicopters were launched and the coastguard called out as members of the public joined in the search along the banks during high tide.

But two hours later when the tide receded the body of Reece Maybury from Rochdale was found on a mudbank at the side of the river, near the foot of the Shard Bridge."

This is the original news article in 5th May 2000

Boy, 2, drowns in river tragedy

DESPITE a frantic search by police and Coastguard services, a two-year-old boy was found drowned on Monday (May1) after he disappeared from the…

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk

Completely different cases. 16 year old.

 

[Mirabel091]

how could an imposter have gotten past eye witnesses at 8.50 and 9.10 (or near times) .....doesnt make sense ? imposter knowing when to log into conference call etc

very very farfetched ....my best friend doesnt have access to my office work diary con call numbers ....there are two identical twins on my street and everyone else (I cant ) is easily able to tell them apart

Not impossible, very unlikely

I also think it's unlikely, but I wonder whether the witnesses know NB personally, or if they mainly recognise her by the dog she's usually with. There's a man who walks three spaniels together where I live, I noticed when one of the dogs wasn't with him one day, but I'm not sure I'd recognise him without any of his dogs.

 

[Wishingwell]

Yes and they found him within hours on the sandbank not far from where he fell in.

Incorrect.
It was 45 years ago - to the very day - that 16-year-old Roger Jones vanished in the River Wyre after being catapulted into the water in a motorcycle crash.

The student from Fulwood was swept away in a fast-flowing brook which fed into the Wyre just yards upstream from where Nicola's mobile phone was found. His body was not discovered until two months later, washed up on a sandbank at low tide near to Shard Bridge, seven miles from St Michael's.

https://www.lep.co.uk/news/nicola-bulley-we-know-her-familys-pain-say-preston-family-who-lost-a-son-in-the-same-stretch-of-river-on-the-same-day-45-years-ago-4019028

 

[J-rock]

Re: the similarity in the CCTV footage between EW and NB, even if there is a fleeting resemblance (in life, they look very different) with a slightly out-of-focus, hazy image, I don't see how it features in the search for NB.

As an aside, I've taken part in 'Super Recogniser' research/tasks for years, for what it's worth (not a great deal possibly), and compare CCTV images frequently. These don't look particularly the same to me, at a glance, but I do see the aforementioned fleeting similarity. MOO.

It’s important, because this is what everyone is using as a reference for NB’s clothing on the day of disappearance. This image contradicts what the police had originally stated she was wearing, which included, most notably, an “ankle-length gilet”. So if this image is NOT of NB from 27 Jan, then it’s a serious piece of false evidence.

 

[Lincolnshirelad]

Completely different cases. 16 year old.

Yep, many appologies, I actually misread the names. Sorry.

Very interesting they both appeared at the same location if you compare both cases on final outcome.

 

[scottishgal]

so if the person who fell 45 years ago was only recovered 2 months later down the same stretch of river 7/8 miles later then how can the search expert say definitively that NB not in river already ?

is it because search technology might have improved sig in the past 50 years ?

 

[Beginnersleuth]

Edit - thats a second one! Got the names wrong. My bad.

Interesting although.

This is the one I confused it with due to the location body was found as its exactly the same

Boy, 2, drowns in river tragedy

DESPITE a frantic search by police and Coastguard services, a two-year-old boy was found drowned on Monday (May1) after he disappeared from the…

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk

That’s a 2yo 20 years ago. The article is for a young adult 45y ago - ah just saw ur edit!