UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #14

[Phoenix Lazarus]

Is the court sitting today?

 

[Dotta]

Is the court sitting today?

No.
Tomorrow.

 

[Tortoise]

Yes, correct, each charge is separate and she can be found guilty/innocent of any amount of them.

Realistically and logically, if she’s guilty of one, she’s probably guilty of them all, but they’ve got to judge each charge individually.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "but they've got to judge each charge individually", but I'm assuming you mean they can't rely on information/evidence from the other charges when they deliberate on all of them. If that's what you mean it isn't correct. They can use all the evidence when they consider each individual charge.

Here's just one example from opening speech, there are others:

"We also say that you are entitled to look at the evidence of what happened to [Child A and B] in the context of one, what Lucy Letby did to other children and two, most starkly, her having poisoned [two other children] with insulin."
Recap: Prosecution opens trial of Lucy Letby accused of Countess of Chester Hospital baby murders

 

[Tortoise]

No.
Tomorrow.

Should be back today, assuming all are in good health.

This week and next are full weeks in the trial schedule.

Not sure reporters are fully committed though, their output has dwindled to virtually nil. It's shockingly bad, in my opinion, and I don't see why the weekly podcast is so short, or why they use half of it to focus on other topics. They cram a whole week's evidence into 10 or 15 minutes, obviously leaving out far more detail than is in. All reporters who are in court all day are employed to be our eyes and ears, but a lot of them seem to be switched off. /Rant over (until the next time!)

 

[Dotta]

Should be back today, assuming all are in good health.

This week and next are full weeks in the trial schedule.

Not sure reporters are fully committed though, their output has dwindled to virtually nil. It's shockingly bad, in my opinion, and I don't see why the weekly podcast is so short, or why they use half of it to focus on other topics. They cram a whole week's evidence into 10 or 15 minutes, obviously leaving out far more detail than is in. All reporters who are in court all day are employed to be our eyes and ears, but a lot of them seem to be switched off. /Rant over (until the next time!)

I remember reading Friday and Monday are off.

 

[Tortoise]

I remember reading Friday and Monday are off.

Monday and Friday were days off, last week

 

[Dotta]

Monday and Friday were days off, last week

Really???
Time flies

 

[Tortoise]

Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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1m

I'm back at Manchester Crown Court for the murder trial of nurse Lucy Letby. The jury will be continuing to hear evidence in relation to the death of a baby boy, referred to as Child P, in June 2016. Ms Letby is said to have administered a fatal dose of air to the boy.


Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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1m

Child P's death came just 24hrs after the death of one of his identical triplet brothers, Child O. Ms Letby is also accused of injecting him with air. She denies all charges.

 

[Tortoise]

Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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5m

Police intelligence analyst Claire Hocknell is first in the witness box - she's continuing to take the court through sequencing evidence for Child P (a 700 tile timeline of that baby boy's collapses and subsequent death)

Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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1m

On June 24, 2016 Child P suffered a number of profound desaturations and at various points required CPR and adrenaline. The boy collapsed for the final time at 15:14 that day and was pronounced dead at 16:00

 

[katydid23]

Have we ever heard from police intelligence analyst Claire Hocknell before this testimony?

 

[Tortoise]

Have we ever heard from police intelligence analyst Claire Hocknell before this testimony?

Yes, in all the cases.

 

[Tortoise]

https://twitter.com/MrDanDonoghue
Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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2m

An hour after Child P's death, Ms Letby text a colleague to say 'Life is too sad', 'lost another and third going to women’s' Her colleague responded: 'Omfg!! what the hell is going on! Don’t know what to say…will have a big hug for you when I get there'

 

[Phoenix Lazarus]

https://twitter.com/MrDanDonoghue
Dan O'Donoghue
@MrDanDonoghue
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2m
Her colleague responded: 'Omfg!! what the hell is going on!

It sounds as if the colleague was becoming very suspicious by that point.

 

[Tortoise]

Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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2m

A nursing note, recorded by Ms Letby, following Child P's death stated: 'I have dressed (Child P) at (the parents) request and taken photos of (Child P) and (Child O) together. Support given to parents and extended family'

Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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1m

In a message to a doctor, who cannot be named for legal reasons, later that night Ms Letby said the two boys - who were part of a set of triplets - looked 'beautiful' together, but added that it was 'beyond words how awful it is'

 

[katydid23]

"...lost another and third going to women's"

So she is saying she lost the 2nd triplet and the 3rd is going to another hospital?

Her co-worker sounds shocked but isn't holding back. = 'Omfg!! what the hell is going on!

 

[katydid23]

And these 2 baby boys died on back to back nights. And a 3rd baby will collapse the next night----I wonder what her co-workers said about that 3rd coincidental collapse?

 

[Cardgame]

I had to listen to it twice - first time I lost concentration because as you say, it seemed irrelevant, listen again and you will hear hints the size of Great Britain!!

I will listen again too. TBH it drives me crazy because it's only 20 mins long but 3 mins of every single episode is the exact same music and intro so I struggle. But I'm giving it another go.

 

[Tortoise]

I will listen again too. TBH it drives me crazy because it's only 20 mins long but 3 mins of every single episode is the exact same music and intro so I struggle. But I'm giving it another go.

skip ahead to the part you want to listen to

 

[katydid23]

I will listen again too. TBH it drives me crazy because it's only 20 mins long but 3 mins of every single episode is the exact same music and intro so I struggle. But I'm giving it another go.

I fast forward thru that first 3 minutes....

I hope they do a good podcast this week because the reporting was so weak.

 

[Tortoise]

needed elsewhere - someone else feel free to jump in if there are any tweets, there's been nothing for the last almost three quarters of an hour

link -

https://twitter.com/MrDanDonoghue