UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #16

[marynnu]

How on earth did she make a timeline of events over the previous year? I wonder what that included.

 

[ColourPurple]

How on earth did she make a timeline of events over the previous year? I wonder what that included.

And would she have done that if Doc Choc hadnt tipped her off that Dr B was asking him practically the same thing?

 

[katydid23]

How on earth did she make a timeline of events over the previous year? I wonder what that included.

I wonder if they ever retrieved that timeline from her? Maybe under the bed in one of those plastic bags with weird post-its and Handover forms?

 

[marynnu]

That is a really telling reaction, imo.

I would be like 'OMG, I cannot believe they think I'm involved. That's horrible. I hope we get this straightened out, etc etc'

But it is defiant to say 'they'll look silly' and kind of guilty to say 'if they only get minimal ' evidence against me. What is minimal evidence in the deaths of 7 babies?

I think I would have been beyond broken if innocent. And 'minimal evidence'? I find that odd too.

 

[LadyEdgeworth]

How on earth did she make a timeline of events over the previous year? I wonder what that included.

Also, what the heck will a timeline be any help for!
"LL, we think you've been involved in suspicious circumstances surrounding these collapses and death, oh what's that? You've wrote down a timeline yourself of the events we're clearly already aware of? free to go then!"

 

[katydid23]

And would she have done that if Doc Choc hadnt tipped her off that Dr B was asking him practically the same thing?

When Doc Choc began writing down all of the details of the previous unexplained collapses, I wonder if he began to question things himself?

 

[Dcflag]

I don’t think it was that she was swapped to a day shift that was worrying her, it was that she was called late at night and told not to come in for her shift, that’s unusual and enough to seem weird.

I also think the notice sent by the senior nurse about clinical supervision starting with LL is weird and ridiculous if that’s the first she’d heard of it. Surely if they’re going to name drop they’d talk to her directly first, or send out the email with no names and then publish the list with an order of staff or approach each staff member individually. Imagine how singled out that first person would feel just getting notice you’re on clinical supervision as a group message.

I do however think that the last few days in the timeline are so interesting and telling. She’s picking up on questions being asked on the ward, people are sending her information they shouldn’t be, she’s making timelines to try and prove her innocence based on being asked not to come in for her shift/clinical supervision. She’s wildly chucking around that there’s no hygiene and a lack of staff to safely carry out procedures. Why on earth any dr let alone dr choc thinks it’s appropriate to be sending her emails he shouldn’t be is a mystery to me. He very clearly believes she’s done nothing wrong. I wonder if we’ll see him sticking up for her in the coming days or standing up to other drs.

 

[katydid23]

Also, what the heck will a timeline be any help for!
"LL, we think you've been involved in suspicious circumstances surrounding these collapses and death, oh what's that? You've wrote down a timeline yourself of the events we're clearly already aware of? free to go then!"

I am so freakin curious to see what events she included in her own timeline of the incidents.

 

[LadyEdgeworth]

I am so freakin curious to see what events she included in her own timeline of the incidents.

7am-4pm - was literally the best nurse ever, did everything perfect, made no mistakes
4:40pm - Definitely did not look up any parents on FB

FIN

 

[Dcflag]

And clearer and clearer why she had a meltdown when she saw he was testifying for the prosecution.

Is he though? I mean obviously these are prosecution witnesses but I’d imagine in this case they really need to be calling all the relevant present medical staff members regardless of that staff members position on her guilt. They’re only largely being asked what happened on each event. In fact the only two times I can think of a staff member showed their opinions it was dr J and his feeling about her when he saw her standing over the crashing baby, and the female dr who sent triplet three away.

I know we can’t know really, but it would be interesting to see which staff members fall which way in their opinions.

 

[ColourPurple]

When Doc Choc began writing down all of the details of the previous unexplained collapses, I wonder if he began to question things himself?

Clearly not straight away, if he was passing that info over to her.

And not that I think it's the case, but if LL is guilty, some of Doc Choc's actions could make him look like he was involved with what she was doing. Things like him tipping her off by forwarding Dr B's email, saying he'll vouch for her, saying how well they work together in resus etc.

IMO if guilty etc

 

[ColourPurple]

I think I would have been beyond broken if innocent. And 'minimal evidence'? I find that odd too.

TBF she didnt use the word evidence but did say " 'If they have nothing or minimal on me they’ll look silly'"

 

[ColourPurple]

7am-4pm - was literally the best nurse ever, did everything perfect, made no mistakes
4:40pm - Definitely did not look up any parents on FB

FIN

7.30pm-finished shift- was careful not to take home any documents that should not have left the ward

 

[katydid23]

MUST READ THIS----HAS FULL TEXT EXCGANGE

Lucy Letby trial: Doctor ‘upset she may have injured baby’

A JUNIOR doctor told a colleague she was “upset” she may have injured a baby with her chest compressions, the Lucy Letby murder trial has heard.

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

Lucy Letby trial: Doctor ‘upset she may have injured baby’​

A JUNIOR doctor told a colleague she was “upset” she may have injured a baby with her chest compressions, the Lucy Letby murder trial has heard.

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[marynnu]

Just musing, but why say 'IF they only get minimal evidence...'? I think I'd be saying when.

 

[Tortoise]

Just putting this here for general knowledge, extract from episode 21 of the podcast

The Trial of Lucy Letby, Episode 21: The Defendant, “I certainly don’t fancy him… just a nice guy.”

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14th June texts (the night before the day shift of 2nd and 3rd alleged attempted murders of baby N)

Doctor A: Am I right in thinking you’ll have done six long-days in the last eight? No wonder you’re tired.

LL: Yep, six in eight. My own doing though as holiday is during days off rather than annual leave. Thank you. I’m having problems with my thyroid which doesn’t help. Just having some cereal and watching Corrie.

Doctor A; bonus that you didn’t use any annual leave for your break. Are you going to Torbay again this year? Let me know if I can do anything endocrine to help. As well as coffee, cake and computers I know my way around TFTs if you need any help.

LL: Yep, we are off to Torquay 2nd July.

 

[ColourPurple]

MUST READ THIS----HAS FULL TEXT EXCGANGE

Lucy Letby trial: Doctor ‘upset she may have injured baby’

A JUNIOR doctor told a colleague she was “upset” she may have injured a baby with her chest compressions, the Lucy Letby murder trial has heard.

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

Lucy Letby trial: Doctor ‘upset she may have injured baby’​

A JUNIOR doctor told a colleague she was “upset” she may have injured a baby with her chest compressions, the Lucy Letby murder trial has heard.

<modsnip: Copyright violation of more than 10% of article>

Ah so the lady doctor , worried about the CPR on Baby O was NOT Dr Tea (who was there for Baby P's resus) ?

 

[Dotta]

What a mess!
"Grey's Anatomy" cannot compare to THIS

As usual, life is stranger than fiction.

JMO

 

[ColourPurple]

Doctor A; bonus that you didn’t use any annual leave for your break. Are you going to Torbay again this year? Let me know if I can do anything endocrine to help. As well as coffee, cake and computers I know my way around TFTs if you need any help.

LL: Yep, we are off to Torquay 2nd July.

Ah so she wouldn't have been in for a week from 2 July anyway. And , if guilty knew she would be away from the ward and not able to harm any babies for a week too, which may have explained the alleged ramp up of attacks when she came back from Ibiza.

IMO if guilty

 

[katydid23]

Ah so the lady doctor , worried about the CPR on Baby O was NOT Dr Tea (who was there for Baby P's resus) ?

I don't know---I don;'t have it sorted out yet. I guess there are two relevant female doctors and I am not sure which is which in terms of the incidents.