UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #18

[JosieJo]

11:49am

Letby confirms she attended resuscitation training for infants, a course which is done every four years.
She says there was no training she had failed, that she was aware of.

11:51am

Letby is asked about air embolism training. Letby says she did not have training for that, and was only aware of air embolisms in adults, after people had had a pulmonary embolism.
Asked if air embolisms had been an issue in the neonatal unit, Letby replies it had not

11:58am

The final overarching interview saw Letby identify her personal diaries, and confirmed only she wrote and had access to those diaries.
Letby says she does not recall, in what way, why she had written the names of babies in her diary on particular dates.
She said: "I just internalise things and think about them in my own time."
She says she would have written them to note which babies she was looking after and how many babies she was the designated nurse for them.
Asked about the 'kill me' note, she said she 'hated' working in the office and had 'lost everything'.
She said, about on the of the notes, it had 'become a doodle thing', having started out as a note.
Asked why she had kept the 'doodle note', she replies she was "not sure". Although undated, the note being in the 2016 diary meant the note could have been written after Letby had been redeployed away from the neonatal unit in July 2016. Letby agrees that would be the case.

Recap: Lucy Letby trial, Thursday, April 27

The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

 

[Kemug]

I wonder if these "circumstances" were the discussion in court without the jury this week?

Maybe LL will be having some serious mental health tests and treatment?

 

[Phoenix Lazarus]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1651540837384310784

 

[Parker Knoll]

She claims she didn’t have a shredder - okaayyyyy

 

[Tortoise]

She said she did not have a shredder and those sheets were at home 'inadvertently'.

must have been planted in her spare bedroom by her adversaries, complete with her shredded bank statements

 

[ColourPurple]

In May 2015 there was a course for medicine administration via a bolus at the hospital, where - under supervision from a doctor - nurses would be able to administer medication via a long line.
She said it was "different", and a "lot more risk", and said she was "competent" having done that training.

Recap: Lucy Letby trial, Thursday, April 27

The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

Ah was this the trigger? (if guilty)

Presumably whilst undergoing that the risk and danger of air embolism was emphasised?

jmo

 

[JosieJo]

12:04pm

Benjamin Myers KC, for Letby's defence, is now asking Cheshire Police detective Danielle Stonier, who has read out the interviews, a few questions.
The detective confirms Letby and her legal representative, in advance of the interviews, would have received 'advanced disclosure', which would include a number of the documents police had, such as key nursing notes, feeding charts and observation charts "but not a detailed suite" of all the documents featured throughout the course of the trial.
As an example, Letby had provided details of a particular shift for one of the babies, having had sight of relevant nursing documents for that child.

 

[Jazmania]

Wow at her responses to the keeping the handover notes. She said she didn't know how to dispose of them and had no shredder. She went completely to pieces and had no credible explanation, and was caught in an outright lie. I think that is very incriminating

 

[WaxLyrical]

do we know when the shredder was purchased?

 

[WaxLyrical]

Ah was this the trigger? (if guilty)

Presumably whilst undergoing that the risk and danger of air embolism was emphasised?

jmo

Probably the most damning thing so far in my opinion, that she only gained the knowledge of administering things in this way immediately prior to the first death.

 

[Sweeper2000]

how comes no ones picked up on her seeming to tell the truth about the “not good enough” note. if she was lying why say it was written in July when she could have said she had written it any time?

why on earth would she lie about the the shredder? That’s. Putting the guilty gun against your head and pulling the trigger.

 

[Sweeper2000]

do we know when the shredder was purchased?

Or if it was working?

 

[WaxLyrical]

Or if it was working?

They said there were shredded bank statements so it seems to have been working

 

[magikarpmagikarp]

"I didn't know what to do about it" - if innocent, that could be a statement made in anxiety. Perhaps she thought, "I can't shred it at home, I must return it to work" It could be the sort of inflexible over thinking that goes hand in hand with anxiety and rumination and leads to paralysis of action. JMO.

I do think the shredder was working, because there were shredded bank statements found with it.

 

[Phoenix Lazarus]

Wow at her responses to the keeping the handover notes. She said she didn't know how to dispose of them and had no shredder. She went completely to pieces and had no credible explanation, and was caught in an outright lie. I think that is very incriminating

She could have torn or cut them up then flushed them down the toilet.

 

[Jazmania]

how comes no ones picked up on her seeming to tell the truth about the “not good enough” note. if she was lying why say it was written in July when she could have said she had written it any time?

why on earth would she lie about the the shredder? That’s. Putting the guilty gun against your head and pulling the trigger.

We don't know that she was telling the truth about the 'not good enough' note. Why she wrote something is impossible to verify, we can only judge the probability of her account being truthful

 

[Sweeper2000]

"I didn't know what to do about it" - if innocent, that could be a statement made in anxiety. Perhaps she thought, "I can't shred it at home, I must return it to work" It could be the sort of inflexible over thinking that goes hand in hand with anxiety and rumination and leads to paralysis of action. JMO.

I do think the shredder was working, because there were shredded bank statements found with it.

That’s what I thought as well. ”it’s trust property so should be disposed of at work”. In line with a conscientious individual. In-line with The strange attachments we have seen from her. Putting it in a folder is inaction isn’t it. Not one step forward or even one back.

im sure the shredders working tbh I just can’t see her being that stupid to say that without something else I can’t see atm.

 

[Jazmania]

"I didn't know what to do about it" - if innocent, that could be a statement made in anxiety. Perhaps she thought, "I can't shred it at home, I must return it to work" It could be the sort of inflexible over thinking that goes hand in hand with anxiety and rumination and leads to paralysis of action. JMO.

I do think the shredder was working, because there were shredded bank statements found with it.

Yes I can see that happening if she genuinely accidentally took home a handover note once. But she had 250 collected over a whole year. Surely that anxiety and paralysis of action would have dissipated at some point over the year and she'd realise "oh I could just put it in my shredder!"

 

[Jazmania]

That’s what I thought as well. ”it’s trust property so should be disposed of at work”. In line with a conscientious individual. In-line with The strange attachments we have seen from her. Putting it in a folder is inaction isn’t it. Not one step forward or even one back.

im sure the shredders working tbh I just can’t see her being that stupid to say that without something else I can’t see atm.

Also note she lied about putting the papers in a folder in her spare room. They were discovered in plastic bags under her bed, and in a box labelled 'keep' at her parents house.

 

[WaxLyrical]

She could have torn or cut them up then flushed them down the toilet.

“the latest fatberg blocking the sewers was found to consist of 80% wet wipes and 20% NHS handover notes”