I don’t know about the UK, but insulin is available over the counter (OTC) in the U.S. If a nurse were planning to harm their patients, it’s possible they could bring it to work in their pocket or work bag. IMO.
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The court hears Guildford has a specialist, separate laboratory for such analysis in insulin, although the advice given to send the sample is not usually taken up by hospitals.The thing is according to the clinical biochemist it was spotted:
Recap: Lucy Letby trial, Friday, November 25
The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more,…www.chesterstandard.co.uk
I would be very interested to know who took that call and what happened with that information. It's particularly baffling that they apparently just shrugged their shoulders as the thrust of the evidence of the consultant group is that they already had concerns about (implicitly non-accidental) harm at this time:
Doctor ‘wishes he had gone straight to police over Lucy Letby concerns’
Letby is accused of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder 10 others at the Countess of Chester Hospital between June 2015 and June 2016.www.bracknellnews.co.uk
It should be noted that Victorino Chua's conviction was in the May of that year, and I imagine it would particularly have been a major news story in the North West:
Stepping Hill murders: how Victorino Chua's poisonings were uncovered
The nurse convicted of murdering patients was caught after a night of curious incidents, but his motive remains a mysterywww.theguardian.com
Exactly my point. It was spotted and interpreted incorrectly. Anyone who knows anything about serial killers knows that the cpeptide result was incoherent. So why do people in the NHS not know this? How can this be mitigated. Trust induction is the answer jmoThe thing is according to the clinical biochemist it was spotted:
Recap: Lucy Letby trial, Friday, November 25
The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more,…
I would be very interested to know who took that call and what happened with that information. It's particularly baffling that they apparently just shrugged their shoulders as the thrust of the evidence of the consultant group is that they already had concerns about (implicitly non-accidental) harm at this time:
Doctor ‘wishes he had gone straight to police over Lucy Letby concerns’
Letby is accused of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder 10 others at the Countess of Chester Hospital between June 2015 and June 2016.
It should be noted that Victorino Chua's conviction was in the May of that year, and I imagine it would particularly have been a major news story in the North West:
Stepping Hill murders: how Victorino Chua's poisonings were uncovered
The nurse convicted of murdering patients was caught after a night of curious incidents, but his motive remains a mystery
You don't need a prescription to buy insulin? That surprises me.I don’t know about the UK, but insulin is available over the counter (OTC) in the U.S. If a nurse were planning to harm their patients, it’s possible they could bring it to work in their pocket or work bag. IMO.
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Sure. I wasn't saying they were exactly the same. I still don't think its so much more difficult for the jury to work out that its taking so much longer, though.
In the health care system, those lessons are not always learned and applied subsequently across all hospitals, unfortunately. Partly due to lack of funding.
Yes, in the case of Charles Cullen, the nurse he worked alongside spotted the c-peptide variation, understood that it was 'off' but also didn't appreciate the significance of this and more patients died than they would have, had the nurse known the significance of this.
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AFAI can remember this Cullen guy had serious mental problems and was discharged from the Army.
I know! He moved around hospitals quite a lot too. Apparently he was suspected of harming patients but the hospitals didn't want the publicity, so sacked him for unrelated reasons and this meant he was able to continue offending.AFAI can remember this Cullen guy had serious mental problems and was discharged from the Army.
How could he get employment in hospital working with patients is beyond me!
JMO
Wow! That's crazy. The cloth and Duct tape particularly.AFAI can remember this Cullen guy had serious mental problems and was discharged from the Army.
How could he get employment in hospital working with patients is beyond me!
JMO
Edited to add from Wikipedia
"Cullen, upset with the judge, kept repeating, "Your Honor, you need to step down" for thirty minutes until Platt had Cullen gagged with cloth and duct tape.
Even after being gagged, Cullen continued to try to repeat the phrase.[14] In that hearing, Platt gave him an additional six life sentences."
Charles Cullen - Wikipedia
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