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I see that Fergie loses her title....mwhaaaa
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...but of course vigorously denies the accusations...
Should have happened ages ago, but here we are.
Prince Andrew gives up royal titles including Duke of York after ‘discussion with king’
In statement released by Buckingham Palace, Andrew says he will give up titles and honours including the Duke of Yorkwww.theguardian.com
Shaking my head, and sitting on my hands.
JMVHO.
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Prince Andrew to give up Duke of York title and honors amid Jeffrey Epstein developments
King Charles III's brother said that "the continued accusations about me" were distracting from the work of the royal family.
www.nbcnews.com
Andrew, King Charles III's younger brother, said in a statement issued via Buckingham Palace that he would "no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me."
The decision was taken "in discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family," he said, after concluding that "the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family...
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Britain's Prince Andrew will stop using his Duke of York title after facing fresh questions over his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.Prince Andrew to give up Duke of York title and honors amid Jeffrey Epstein developments
King Charles III's brother said that "the continued accusations about me" were distracting from the work of the royal family.
Andrew, King Charles III's younger brother, said in a statement issued via Buckingham Palace that he would "no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me."
The decision was taken "in discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family," he said, after concluding that "the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family...
Why "fresh questions? "
What came up recently to make this happen?
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Forced to stop using his title but has he stopped his bad behavior? (Rhetorical question, btw.)Britain's Prince Andrew will stop using his Duke of York title after facing fresh questions over his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.Prince Andrew to give up Duke of York title and honors amid Jeffrey Epstein developments
King Charles III's brother said that "the continued accusations about me" were distracting from the work of the royal family.
Andrew, King Charles III's younger brother, said in a statement issued via Buckingham Palace that he would "no longer use my title or the honours which have been conferred upon me."
The decision was taken "in discussion with The King, and my immediate and wider family," he said, after concluding that "the continued accusations about me distract from the work of His Majesty and the Royal Family...
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Virginia's book is coming out. jmopinion
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There was the recent discussion IIUC of US officials with Ghislane Maxwell, and IIRC the recent visit of the president to the UK and meeting with the King. And there is now the just announced commutation of Santos’ sentence (on another thread here), I wonder if perhaps there has been some discussion. And whether any consideration of the IMO ‘disgraced’ former ‘Duke’ might have considered a trip abroad or to the US?
Hard not to wonder if seemingly unconnected events might actually have some relevance or interconnection perhaps? MOO
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Jeffrey Epstein had multiple appointments, phone calls and dinners with Matthew Menchel — the Miami U.S. Attorney’s office chief criminal prosecutor who spearheaded Epstein’s sweetheart deal in 2007, newly released documents show. A tranche of over 8,500 pages of records from Epstein’s estate — released by the House Oversight Committee Friday — show that Epstein’s calendars and emails reflect that Menchel, who left the DOJ in 2008, had multiple meetings or dinners with Epstein in 2011, 2013 and 2017. Lawmakers also referred to a photograph of Menchel on a ski trip with Epstein sometime in the 2000s.
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article312545792.html#storylink=cpy
Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article312545792.html#storylink=cpy
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Andrew has always been a <modsnip>.
Fergie is no better.
If I was a British Taxpayer, I’d be livid that my taxes had been paying for his, and Fergie’s, lifestyle.
I feel sorry for their daughters. They will be forever tainted by their parents actions.
Fergie is no better.
If I was a British Taxpayer, I’d be livid that my taxes had been paying for his, and Fergie’s, lifestyle.
I feel sorry for their daughters. They will be forever tainted by their parents actions.
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Reacting to the news,
Ms Giuffre's family said:
"We, the family of Virginia Roberts Giuffre,
believe that Prince Andrew's decision to give up his titles is vindication for our sister and survivors everywhere.
This decisive action is a powerful step forward in our fight to bring Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's child sex-trafficking network to justice.
Further,
we believe it is appropriate for King Charles to remove the title of Prince.
This moment serves as victory for Virginia, who consistently maintained,
'He knows what happened,
I know what happened,
and there's only one of us telling the truth,
and I know that's me'."
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A recently released email has revealed that Andrew lied (including in his televised news interview) about when he ceased friendship/contact with Epstein.
Prince Andrew told Epstein 'we're in this together' after he said he cut contact
Prince Andrew told Epstein 'we're in this together' after he said he cut contact
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BBM
Virginia's life is so sad.
However, Andrew has not been stripped of his titles. He has not given up/ relinquished his titles either. He’s just agreed not to use them. He still has them.
They are
but as if they weren't
I mean,
what's the use of titles
which one cannot use in public?
And "agreed"
seems to be an euphemism to me
JMcommoner'sO!!!
PS
We have this saying in my country:
"The wolf is fed
And the sheep is alive" hehehe
but as if they weren't
I mean,
what's the use of titles
which one cannot use in public?
And "agreed"
seems to be an euphemism to me
JMcommoner'sO!!!
PS
We have this saying in my country:
"The wolf is fed
And the sheep is alive" hehehe
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I agree @Warwick7 …. IMO the titles or allowed references should be stripped or banished from use. By the king and / or any acts of British Parliament needed. Such a disgrace. And IMO word semantics should not be ‘played’ in this matter.BBM
Virginia's life is so sad.
However, Andrew has not been stripped of his titles. He has not given up/ relinquished his titles either. He’s just agreed not to use them. He still has them.
IMO it is time to release the entire report and dealings and names of those involved in the Epstein, Lolita Express plane, and the island saga where Epstein ‘vacationed’ IIUC. MOO
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Releasing the entire report will never happen...
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Prince Andrew's six-year downfall over Jeffrey Epstein ties comes to a dramatic conclusion
Prince Andrew's decision to give up his Duke of York title was described as a "vindication" by the family of late Epstein survivor Virginia Roberts Giuffre.
www.nbcnews.com
“Prince Andrew’s decision to give up his titles is vindication for our sister and survivors everywhere,” the family of Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who died by suicide in April at the age of 41, said in a statement...
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