UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

[seasideForest]

Who the heck is Sarah Margaret Ferguson?!!! Her name is meaningless.
MOO

Maybe she is now meaningless to the UK and the Commonwealth?

 

[seasideForest]

IMO 'prince' Andrew and his ex-wife could get a small abode without household help and live much more modestly, for the sake of the British taxpayers.

Yes. Agree.
There's a huge housing crisis in the UK (as in other countries too), put the money saved there instead maybe.

 

[Snoopster]

It seems like many are enjoying their 15 minutes of fame to declare that Andrew, who has never been charged with a crime, has caused a national crisis equal to the drunk driving death of Lady Diana. I'm not seeing it.

Should Andrew be evicted from his home, exiled to another country (if one would take him)? Should the government remove titles that are already in abeyance? Is Andrew's long known history with Epstein the most important crisis in the UK today?


"I hold no torch for the quondam Duke of York. Best leave that to Fergie. He seems to encapsulate everything our society detests in one podgy lump: boorishness, entitlement, arrogance.

Yet, I hesitate to ask, what exactly is his “crime”? Whatever the truth about what happened between Andrew and the sad, lost Virginia Giuffre, anyone who associated with Jeffrey Epstein is a poor judge of character, but the deceased financier rubbed shoulders with half the Davos set. Should they all suffer opprobrium? Prince Air Miles stuck by Epstein after his first prison sentence. Naive, not criminal. If a friend of mine went to jail, I might stick by them, too.

As Ernest Hemingway might almost have said, the former Falklands “hero” has fallen from grace slowly, then all of a sudden. So it was that, on Friday, the Windsors announced he will stop using all his titles. Still, however, the crowd are baying for more, demanding harsher punishment be meted out on the banned old Duke of York. There are calls for him to be prosecuted for asking the cops for dirt on Ms Giuffre: his muck-raking biographer has discussed the prospect on breakfast TV. There’s the suggestion he be turfed out of Royal Lodge, his home for 21 years. And, perhaps most preposterously, that he – and Sarah Ferguson for good measure – be exiled from his country of birth.

In what Thomas Macaulay would have described as one of Britain’s “periodic fits of morality”, we’ve turned this rather pathetic man into our latest national hate figure, a cross between Fred West and Jimmy Savile."

Oct 21, 2025
The Telegraph

"Make no mistake, this is a moment of peril for the royal family. The crisis of public confidence echoes the national mood after the death of Diana in 1997, that is to say, a dangerous sense that the palace is not only out of touch with the public mood but is failing to properly respond."

Octo 21, 2025

This is a moment of peril for the royal family

Editorial: The furore over Prince Andrew echoes the national mood after the death of Diana in 1997 – and there is a real danger that the palace has not fully appreciated the strength of public feeling

www.independent.co.uk

Regarding your opening sentence implying that Andrew is a national crisis but shouldn't be...Is there a person alive who doesn't believe that Andrew was into "young women"? He settled his suit with Virginia Giuffre. <modsnip> Why do you think the royal family has turned on him. They know who he is. They don't usually shrink from scandals, but in this case they have.
Virginia Giuffre took her own life. Andrew contributed to that.

Just my take.

So, yes, I believe it's just as bad.

ETA: also wanted to add that the British media does fan the flames, as Epstein isn't all about Andrew. It's much worse than just him.

 

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Regarding your opening sentence implying that Andrew is a national crisis but shouldn't be...Is there a person alive who doesn't believe that Andrew was into "young women"? He settled his suit with Virginia Giuffre. <modsnip> Why do you think the royal family has turned on him. They know who he is. They don't usually shrink from scandals, but in this case they have.
Virginia Giuffre took her own life. Andrew contributed to that.

Just my take.

So, yes, I believe it's just as bad.

ETA: also wanted to add that the British media does fan the flames, as Epstein isn't all about Andrew. It's much worse than just him.

I think it's time that we see a complete, unedited list of Epstein's friends, private planes guests, financial deals, and massage logs. Andrew is at the top of the food chain, but he's not alone at the top. There needs to be an equal reaction with everyone who benefited from association with Epstein.

Learning that palace security officers investigate people who release personal information about royals to media, and that the financial settlement with Giuffre included a non-disclosure clause, doesn't seem all that surprising. Tabloids are suggesting that this is shockingly unusual, but it's not news when the intent behind the story is to cause outrage.