UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999 - 2002

[Legally Bland]

The extraordinarily broad provision stipulates that Giuffre “remise, release, acquit, satisfy, and forever discharge the said Second Parties and any other person or entity who could have been included as a potential defendant (‘Other Potential Defendants’) from all, and all manner of, action and actions” that she may bring, whether “state or federal.”

The prince’s lawyer Andrew B. Brettler previously claimed that the agreement specifically exempted “royalty.”

“Because Prince Andrew is a senior member of the British royal family, he falls into one of the expressly identified categories of persons, i.e., royalty, released from liability under the Release Agreement, along with politicians, academicians, businessmen, and others allegedly associated with Epstein,” Brettler wrote in a memo on Oct. 29.

The word “royalty” does not appear in the specific document released on Monday, and it is unclear whether a separate document spells out the descriptions of the “other potential defendants” the release would encompass.

Long-Secret Jeffrey Epstein Settlement at Issue in Lawsuit Against Prince Andrew Made Public for First Time

 

[UK Girl]

Something just occurred to me based on this could VG even have appeared in the court case against Maxwell? Confidential settlement between Virginia Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein made public | US News | Sky News

 

[UK Girl]

Something just occurred to me based on this could VG even have appeared in the court case against Maxwell? Confidential settlement between Virginia Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein made public | US News | Sky News

 

[Cool Cats]

Prince Andrew accuser Virginia Giuffre’s legal deal with Jeffrey Epstein released

A near-dozen-year-old legal settlement between Virginia Giuffre and Jeffrey Epstein was released on Monday. Giuffre received $500,000 in her lawsuit against Epstein, court papers revealed.

The unsealing stemmed from Giuffre’s sexual abuse lawsuit against Prince Andrew, which she filed on 9 August in Manhattan federal court.

Andrew filed Giuffre’s settlement with Epstein as part of his attempt to dismiss her case, arguing that it shields him. Lawyers for the prince contend the settlement contains provisions that bar Giuffre from taking legal action against many of Epstein’s associates.

 

[sds71]

@LisaBloom

Virginia Giuffre's settlement agreement with Jeffrey Epstein was released today. Prince Andrew argues that her settlement with Epstein releases him as well, and therefore her case against him should be dismissed. I've done hundreds of these over 35 years Here's why he is wrong
Virginia's settlement agreement includes truly unusual and bizarre language that I would never allow in a settlement agreement: that claims against "any other person or entity who could have been included as a potential defendant" is also released. WHAT???
Contracts must be clear and specific. This is incomprehensibly vague. Virginia can never sue any others who wronged her, because she settled with Epstein? This makes no sense, and flies in the face of NY law which grants sexual abuse survivors more time to sue
Why? Because we want perpetrators to be brought to justice. Dismissing Virginia's case against Prince Andrew would undermine that important goal. Also . . .
Contracts are strictly construed against the drafter. I'm sure that Epstein's fleet of lawyers drafted her settlement agreement. Ambiguities are construed in her favor. I just can't get over that she releases any other possible person, now or forever, who wronged her. No.

 

[Dotta]

well she took the money....and agreed to do just that...and was signed by lawyers. I dont see what Epstein being dead has to do with it but...I am not a lawyer either although I did take law at College

But...
VG has excellent lawyers, right?
Do you think they would take this case if it was doomed to collapse?

Other thing - PA was just a friend of JE.
So.....
Can a man JE just knew be also included in the deal?
I thought only associates.

 

[UK Girl]

But...
VG has excellent lawyers, right?
Do you think they would take this case if it was doomed to collapse?

Other thing - PA was just a friend of JE.
So.....
Can a man JE just knew be also included in the deal?
I thought only associates.

to be honest from some of the things I have said....I assume he is good but when i read who he wants as witnesses..and why I actually wonder.. I dont know I dont know American law but if they are saying anyone connected to him she cant sue....he is connected to him i guess or was or the charge now against him is from knowing them both.

 

[tayaway]

But...
VG has excellent lawyers, right?
Do you think they would take this case if it was doomed to collapse?

Other thing - PA was just a friend of JE.
So.....
Can a man JE just knew be also included in the deal?
I thought only associates.

Agreed! If PA claims he's part of this deal, isn't that an admission of being part of JE's sex trafficking (as a 'john', presumably)?

 

[Legally Bland]

@LisaBloom

Virginia Giuffre's settlement agreement with Jeffrey Epstein was released today. Prince Andrew argues that her settlement with Epstein releases him as well, and therefore her case against him should be dismissed. I've done hundreds of these over 35 years Here's why he is wrong
Virginia's settlement agreement includes truly unusual and bizarre language that I would never allow in a settlement agreement: that claims against "any other person or entity who could have been included as a potential defendant" is also released. WHAT???
Contracts must be clear and specific. This is incomprehensibly vague. Virginia can never sue any others who wronged her, because she settled with Epstein? This makes no sense, and flies in the face of NY law which grants sexual abuse survivors more time to sue
Why? Because we want perpetrators to be brought to justice. Dismissing Virginia's case against Prince Andrew would undermine that important goal. Also . . .
Contracts are strictly construed against the drafter. I'm sure that Epstein's fleet of lawyers drafted her settlement agreement. Ambiguities are construed in her favor. I just can't get over that she releases any other possible person, now or forever, who wronged her. No.

Someone on twitter pointed out that if this is enforceable VRG wouldn't even be able to sue a plumber for shoddy work.

 

[Dotta]

Agreed! If PA claims he's part of this deal, isn't that an admission of being part of JE's sex trafficking (as a 'john', presumably)?

Catch 22?

 

[sds71]

Someone on twitter pointed out that if this is enforceable VRG wouldn't even be able to sue a plumber for shoddy work.

the entire Epstein NPA should be released-unredacted

 

[Dotta]

Someone on twitter pointed out that if this is enforceable VRG wouldn't even be able to sue a plumber for shoddy work.

Hahaha
This is becoming more and more comical with each passing day.

But Im a commoner with my common problems and common sense of humour

 

[Dotta]

Update

Unsealed settlement between Jeffrey Epstein and Virginia Robert makes no mention of Prince Andrew | Daily Mail Online

 

[sds71]

I guess this is who Andrew thinks he is:

21. In addition to being continually exploited to satisfy Defendants every sexual whim, Plaintiff was also required to be sexually exploited by Defendants adult male peers, including Royalty, politicians, academicians, businessmen, andor other professional and personal acquaintances.

Jane Doe 102 vs. JEFFREY EPSTEIN
DocumentCloud



@benfeuerherd

Statement by Virginia Giuffre's attorney David Boies on the settlement agreement unsealed today

 

[otto]

Non-tabloid update on the Giuffre's action against Prince Andrew:

"The agreement between Epstein and Giuffre contains a liability release for "any other person or entity" who could have been a defendant against claims by Giuffre, the filing in federal court in Manhattan shows. The deal also provided for Giuffre to be paid $500,000 US.
...

Andrew, 61, has denied Giuffre's allegations and has moved to dismiss the lawsuit, arguing Giuffre is seeking a "payday" from her accusations against Epstein and his associates. The prince has not been accused of criminal wrongdoing.

He argued the previously confidential agreement between Giuffre and Epstein, whom she has accused of trafficking her for sex when she was a teenager, shields him from liability.
...

Giuffre's lawsuit is separate from the criminal trial against Maxwell that concluded last week. ... Giuffre's claims did not form the basis of any of the charges Maxwell faced."
​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/princ...effrey-epstein-settlement-agreement-1.6302479

 

[Dotta]

I guess this is who Andrew thinks he is:

21. In addition to being continually exploited to satisfy Defendants every sexual whim, Plaintiff was also required to be sexually exploited by Defendants adult male peers, including Royalty, politicians, academicians, businessmen, andor other professional and personal acquaintances.

Jane Doe 102 vs. JEFFREY EPSTEIN
DocumentCloud



@benfeuerherd

Statement by Virginia Giuffre's attorney David Boies on the settlement agreement unsealed today

Mr David Boies - Thank you Sir.

You are a voice of reason in this madness.

Always prepared to fight for Justice.

 

[UK Girl]

Mr David Boies - Thank you Sir.

You are a voice of reason in this madness.

Always prepared to fight for Justice.

How is wanting Charles and his daughter in law for witnesses...being a voice of reason? tho to be fair he did excuse the Queen on account of her age lol

 

[Dotta]

How is wanting Charles and his daughter in law for witnesses...being a voice of reason? tho to be fair he did excuse the Queen on account of her age lol

Lol!
Im honoured that you always quote my posts

But how would I know what Mr Boies has up his sleeve???

Im sure I will not be disappointed

 

[otto]

How is wanting Charles and his daughter in law for witnesses...being a voice of reason? tho to be fair he did excuse the Queen on account of her age lol

Perhaps there is some belief that Prince Charles and his <modsnip> daughter-in-law observed Prince Andrew assaulting females over the age of 17.

 

[UK Girl]

Perhaps there is some belief that Prince Charles and his <modsnip> daughter-in-law observed Prince Andrew assaulting females over the age of 17.

well I doubt one of those did at least