GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #14

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James Ireland 'thought he was helping Matthews move home'

The trial has resumed at Bristol Crown Court, with Sean Hammond defending James Ireland - who is charged with assisting an offender.
Mr Hammond states the prosecution charge against Ireland, saying he was originally believed to have helped store Becky’s body but is now only accused of transporting the body parts.
He adds that Ireland did not know Nathan Matthews, has no previous convictions, and is only involved in the case after being “used” by Karl Demetrius.
He tells the jury: “James Ireland is a decent, honest and trusting young man. Everything that happened that night is consistent with what Karl Demetrius told him - that NM had been kicked out of his home.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6797039

 

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ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 28 secs29 seconds ago
SH: "There was no motive, no reason, no problem, no debt... that would have caused this young man to change the way he lived" #beckywatts

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 39 secs40 seconds ago
SH"We say there was no motive,no reason, no debts that would suddenly cause this young man to change his life and get involved in crime."

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 43 secs43 seconds ago
Friends described JI as trustworthy, reliable and honest and one said there was "not a chance" he would get involved in crime #beckywatts

 

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The Breeze SouthWest ‏@breezesouthwest · 42 secs43 seconds ago
#BeckyWatts trial: NM knew KD, not JI. Says he chose JI because he had learning difficulties and wouldn't question what he was told.

Jess Skinner ‏@missJSkinner · 39s40 seconds ago
#BeckyWatts trial: Defence - 'everything that happened that night was consistent with what KD told him'

 

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The Breeze SouthWest ‏@breezesouthwest · 24 secs24 seconds ago
#BeckyWatts trial: JI thought NM was collecting his belongings to leave his home – JI stayed outside while NM packed up his stuff

 

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The Breeze SouthWest ‏@breezesouthwest · 23 secs23 seconds ago
#BeckyWatts trial: Defence - nothing about what JI saw or was told would've made him think NM was a robber or handling stolen goods

 

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Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 31 secs32 seconds ago
Friends described JI as "honest"

 

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[h=3]Ireland's learning difficulties mean he 'doesn't question what he is told'[/h]Mr Hammond continues by reminding the jury that James Ireland is ADHD, on the autistic spectrum and suffers from learning difficulties.
The court is told Ireland was known to give people lifts and would often take what he was told at face value and not question what people were saying to him - in this case that he was moving Nathan Matthews’ belongings.
Mr Hammond: “We say there was no motive,no reason, no debts that would suddenly cause this young man to change his life and get involved in crime.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6797039

 

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Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 41 secs41 seconds ago
Says JIs account is consistent because he is telling the truth. JI says he never opened the suitcases or looked what inside.JI has IQ of 79

 

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At this late stage - I doubt it

Then I shall just have to accept what his lawyer says lol

 

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The Breeze SouthWest ‏@breezesouthwest · 30 secs30 seconds ago
#BeckyWatts trial: Defence says JI chose to give evidence. Says it was especially difficult because of low IQ (79) / speech impediment.

The Breeze SouthWest ‏@breezesouthwest · 40 secs40 seconds ago
#BeckyWatts trial: Says JI gave a clear consistent account and was telling the truth

 

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Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 47 secs48 seconds ago
SH Says KD/JP text each other that night to keep JI in the dark so they could keep money from NM l

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 33 secs34 seconds ago
Jaydene Parsons sent a text message to boyfriend Karl Demetrius saying "all done?", to which he replied "not yet babe" #beckywatts

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 51 secs51 seconds ago
JP replied, "Ah ok, you gonna hide it for him? We could do with the money. Lol." Later saying, "that's a deposit for a house." #beckywatts

 

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Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 1 min1 minute ago
SH:Why didn't JI ask KD more questions?JI says it wasn't his place to look in suitcases or ask more questions

Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 33 secs34 seconds ago
Correction-JI said he stood by the door of CML.SH says didn't pack suitcases etc

 

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The Breeze SouthWest ‏@breezesouthwest · 36 secs37 seconds ago
#BeckyWatts trial: Defence - 'why were they (JP/KD) texting each other? To intentionally keep JI in the dark so they could keep the money.'

ETA Added JP/KD initials for clarity

 

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Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 46 secs46 seconds ago
SH says suitcases consistent with idea someone moving out rather than a robbery

 

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can anyone remind me what NM testified to telling them they were moving/storing for him?

 

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Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 26 secs26 seconds ago
Dr Roland says that JIs IQ places him in the bottom 8% of population.

 

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ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 6m6 minutes ago

Jaydene Parsons sent a text message to boyfriend Karl Demetrius saying "all done?", to which he replied "not yet babe


so, JP was not at home that night then ? Otherwise, surely she would know when they were all done

 

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Siobhan Robbins Verified account  ‏@SiobhanRobbins · 33 secs33 seconds ago
Find its hard to place himself in another persons shoes and know what thinking. JI more likely to take at face value what he is being told

 

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ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 6m6 minutes ago

Jaydene Parsons sent a text message to boyfriend Karl Demetrius saying "all done?", to which he replied "not yet babe


so, JP was not at home that night then ? Otherwise, surely she would know when they were all done

that was my thought too.

 

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ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 6m6 minutes ago

Jaydene Parsons sent a text message to boyfriend Karl Demetrius saying "all done?", to which he replied "not yet babe


so, JP was not at home that night then ? Otherwise, surely she would know when they were all done

Looks like that text was sent before the 1:10, 1:18 ones i.e when KD was at CML or on the way to get the van