GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #16

[edgedweller]

I don't know. I think his family might eventually find it easier to move on if he isn't around. I think that DG and AG's marriage will be put under huge strain if she does visit him in prison. I can't imagine the split loyalties that poor woman is going to face.

But I'd like him to have at least a few years of prison before that [emoji53]


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[cottonweaver]

If Matthews had pleaded guilty to murder, Becky's family could have been spared the gruesome trial. But no. He had to come up with this ludicrous tale of doing something 'extreme' to get a 'good' result (an 'accident') as if anyone in the entire universe would think that was reasonable justification. He was too much of a coward to tell the truth, so instead he spun a yarn so absurd that no one is really the wiser about what happened.

well said - that is an aggravating factor and caused so much more strife to build between the two families I guess too. That he lied for others to prevent the course of justice for SH is another to add to the list....

 

[Clio]

Jon Kay Verified account  ‏@jonkay01 · 34 secs34 seconds ago
Nathan Matthews' barrister says his client has already lost everything & thrown his life away - asks for this to be considered in sentence.

 

[skibaboo]

UK & Eire database for all crimes against children

 

[Tortoise]

[h=3]'He has thrown away his life'[/h]Mr Vaitilingam said: “There is no mitigation for this appalling crime but I would invite my lord to be careful of saying there is no evidence of remorse.
“There is no atonement for a crime of this nature.”
Judge: “Well he had the option of pleading guilty.”
Mr Vaitilingam said as soon as Matthews was arrested for murder by the police he collapsed.
He said: “You have seen evidence of shame and anguish in the witness box. It’s wrong not to at least acknowledge that they exist.
“He has thrown away his life and his relationship with his mother who he loved and those things should not simply be airbrushed from history.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-live-updates-6823671

 

[Wallace]

Struggling to see his barristers point.

He seems to be arguing for leniency because nobody knows what happened, apart from his client and his girlfriend.

Um, NM chose to lie.

So suffer the consequences.

 

[Clio]

Struggling to see his barristers point.

He seems to be arguing for leniency because nobody knows what happened, apart from his client and his girlfriend.

Um, NM chose to lie.

So suffer the consequences.

Trying to argue not sexual to avoid whole life

 

[sar2them1984]

Jon Kay Verified account  ‏@jonkay01 · 34 secs34 seconds ago
Nathan Matthews' barrister says his client has already lost everything & thrown his life away - asks for this to be considered in sentence.

And?? HOW is that a reason to give him a more lenient sentence?

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[Clio]

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn · 36 secs37 seconds ago
The actual sentencing will take place at 1400. The judge will rise to reflect on his submissions before sentencing #beckywatts

Darren Little Verified account  ‏@DarrenLittleSky · 34 secs34 seconds ago
Judge says he will sentence Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare at 2pm

Jon Kay Verified account  ‏@jonkay01 · 25 secs25 seconds ago
UPDATE: Judge says he will sentence Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare at 1400 today. Legal arguments ongoing. #BeckyWatts

 

[YidArmyRach]

Jon Kay Verified account  ‏@jonkay01 · 34 secs34 seconds ago
Nathan Matthews' barrister says his client has already lost everything & thrown his life away - asks for this to be considered in sentence.

Well tough, he shouldn't have killed Becky then. He bought it on all himself. No sympathy from me. I think his barrister has got a nerve even asking anyone to take Nathan's situation into consideration.

 

[sar2them1984]

Sentencing to take place at 2pm

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[ColourPurple]

'He has thrown away his life'

Mr Vaitilingam said: “There is no mitigation for this appalling crime but I would invite my lord to be careful of saying there is no evidence of remorse.
“There is no atonement for a crime of this nature.”
Judge: “Well he had the option of pleading guilty.”
Mr Vaitilingam said as soon as Matthews was arrested for murder by the police he collapsed.
He said: “You have seen evidence of shame and anguish in the witness box. It’s wrong not to at least acknowledge that they exist.
“He has thrown away his life and his relationship with his mother who he loved and those things should not simply be airbrushed from history.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-live-updates-6823671

Yet no apology. Sorry is the word he needed to say.

 

[Clio]

And?? HOW is that a reason to give him a more lenient sentence?

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Para 4 - whole life order (exceptionally high seriousness
...
murder of child involving abduction, sexual or sadistic motivation

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/murder/

 

[Alyce]

Rupert Evelyn ‏@rupertevelyn 3m3 minutes ago

The actual sentencing will take place at 1400. The judge will rise to reflect on his submissions before sentencing

 

[Beesknees]

Good you used it skibaboo, I too am using it :cry:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Para 4 - whole life order (exceptionally high seriousness
...
murder of child involving abduction, sexual or sadistic motivation

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/murder/

Imo, that fits the bill here.

 

[jessie]

[h=3]'He has thrown away his life'[/h]Mr Vaitilingam said: “There is no mitigation for this appalling crime but I would invite my lord to be careful of saying there is no evidence of remorse.
“There is no atonement for a crime of this nature.”
Judge: “Well he had the option of pleading guilty.”
Mr Vaitilingam said as soon as Matthews was arrested for murder by the police he collapsed.
He said: “You have seen evidence of shame and anguish in the witness box. It’s wrong not to at least acknowledge that they exist.
“He has thrown away his life and his relationship with his mother who he loved and those things should not simply be airbrushed from history.”

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-live-updates-6823671

I like this Judge. No wonder he got a Knighthood, he is very, very good.

 

[sar2them1984]

Para 4 - whole life order (exceptionally high seriousness
...
murder of child involving abduction, sexual or sadistic motivation

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_manual/murder/

It's quite a clever argument thinking about it..

No abduction actually took place...and keeping his reasons very close to his chest means the sexual element can't be proven..

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[YidArmyRach]

Yet no apology. Sorry is the word he needed to say.

Not just to Becky's family either, but to JI and DD whose lives have been turned upside down by dragging them into the crime too. And, even for JP and KD - who would never have become involved had he not sought them out.

I'm even going to give SH a little bit of slack here, and suggest that had he kept his distance when she was 14 and he was 21, she 'might' have followed a different path.

 

[Alyce]

Difficult one for NMs Barrister.

As soon as he was arrested for murder, he collapsed.

But not sufficiently to say, let's not have a trial