GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #8

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If the jury has one person on it like me, I don't think as of now I could convict SH. I'm being honest, I have dealt with some of the things SH is saying with my youngest daughter and her useless husband. The only thing he hasn't done is stabbed himself in the face with a fork, but if he did, it wouldn't shock me, and I would expect him to do that. I really am mixed up on this.
 
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Claire Hayhurst ‏@clairehayhurst · 35 secs36 seconds ago
Hoare: could smell bleach and cleaning products so didn't go inside. A throw from the sofa was rolled up by the door to "stop the smell".
I never knew they had a sofa in there...why a throw off the sofa...Can't have been convenient as he'd have had to dig under a couple of feet of junk to get to it...

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Claire Hayhurst ‏@clairehayhurst · 26 secs26 seconds ago
Hoare: on the Sat heard a power tool in the bathroom - thought Matthews was fitting pipe to toilet #beckywatts

This is all so unbeleivable.

Her boyfriends sister goes missing while they were at her house. Her boyfriend then goes out for 3 hours the next day, buys a circular saw, has a cut on his hand, won't let her go in the bathroom, which stinks of bleach and she hears a power tool being used in there. But she never finds any of this strange
 
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True, it's the only thing I miss about renting. Free repairs!

Although the length of time it takes some landlords to repair is frustrating. We privately rent and my husband ended up repairing a curtain rail and has unblocked a drain on numerous occasions because the lettig agent was taking so long to send someone out. It also took them a month t fox a broken window!

I imagine council repairs/HA repairs would be quicker though.
 
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Although the length of time it takes some landlords to repair is frustrating. We privately rent and my husband ended up repairing a curtain rail and has unblocked a drain on numerous occasions because the lettig agent was taking so long to send someone out. It also took them a month t fox a broken window!

I imagine council repairs/HA repairs would be quicker though.
Yes council/HA are pretty clear about what repairs they are responsible for and those that the tenant are.

Minor repair to furnishings etc such as replacing a curtain rail would fall to the tenant and changing a washer on a tap etc however things like blocked/leaking toilets and taps are the HA responsibility. All repairs are categorised and have to be completed within certain timescales. Emergency is around 12 hours. High priority 24 hours and so on with minor repairs needing to be completed within 4 weeks something like that

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I have to say, the order in which they are presenting the jury with evidence and witness testimony is in total shambles. They are hopping all over the place. Interview, then CS evidence, then witness, then CS evidence, then back to original interview, then some more witnesses, etc. Holy crap.

Can't they try to set things up chronologically to make it easier for jurors and only randomly fit in witnesses who can't make certain schedules? This is like watching one of those films that doesn't show the story in a linear chronological fashion and instead snips the footage and skips back and fourth in time (viewers need to work extra hard to put the story together at the end). What a mess!

Just what I was thinking what a mess I'm totally confused them poor jurors must be thinking what the hell is going on!
 
  • #548
Interesting that her solicitor advised her to make no comment.

[FONT=open_sans]Describing how she felt having been arrested on suspicion of kidnap, she said: "I feel terrified, upset, angry, very confused and quite sad."[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sans]In a further interview on March 1, by which time Hoare had a solicitor, she gave a prepared statement saying she would say no comment to all other questions.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sans]But on March 2 Hoare was re-interviewed and told police how the home she shared with Matthews in Cotton Mill Lane was jam-packed with clutter, thanks to Matthews' hoarding.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sans]In that interview she told police that, on February 20, she and Matthews went to Crown Hill intending to wash up, vacuum and take the dog for a walk.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sans]She recalled, however, that Matthews told her he had to go and help a friend and he drove off in his car between about noon and 4pm.[/FONT]
[FONT=open_sans]She said: "I didn't ask him where he had been. I had no idea what he was doing. I presume he was helping a friend out."[/FONT]
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: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Becky-...tory-28035053-detail/story.html#ixzz3pJ28tZf5

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If the jury has one person on it like me, I don't think as of now I could convict SH. I'm being honest, I have dealt with some of the things SH is saying with my youngest daughter and her useless husband. The only thing he hasn't done is stabbed himself in the face with a fork, but if he did, it wouldn't shock me, and I would expect him to do that. I really am mixed up on this.

So far, with evidence heard, I'm leaning towards her knowing or at least suspecting that he did it, but doing nothing about it for whatever reason. I don't think she was as abused or controlled as she is making out either.
 
  • #551
"Shauna told police, in the interview on March 3, that when she had got "very desperate" for the toilet Matthews had given her a bucket, then gone into the bathroom to dispose of it."
 
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SH says she has no one other than NM, so why the reconciliation with her mum? NM's suggestion? If it was, didn't SH think it strange after more than 2 yrs? If it was her suggestion, why? Because of the publicity about Becky's disappearance?

On the phone, SH also asked her Step-dad not to mention that she was coming over since she wanted to surprise her. They arrived at her Mom's place within 30-40 min.

During visit/s, neither she nor NM brought up the fact that Becky had gone missing (at some point, her Mom did)
 
  • #554
SH says she has no one other than NM, so why the reconciliation with her mum? NM's suggestion? If it was, didn't SH think it strange after more than 2 yrs? If it was her suggestion, why? Because of the publicity about Becky's disappearance?

NM told SH's mother it was SH's idea to visit.

If she's innocent then Becky going missing could have made her suddenly think about how her mother felt when she stopped contacting her.

If she's somehow involved then when police wanted to search their home and Becky's body was still there, then the only place she could really go to avoid police coming round was her estranged mothers. Apparently she never mentioned Becky being missing either, which is very odd but sounds like she was hoping her mother didn't know. If she's not involved why not tell her mother about Becky being missing?

Also, if invovled, it could be that she wanted her daughter to meet her mother in case in the future she was arrested and jailed and her daughter needed somewhere to live.
 
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ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 31s31 seconds ago
SH only 'noticed the saw' after seeing it's box in her bedroom and assumed that's what he was using to cut the pipe. #beckywatts
 
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"Shauna told police, in the interview on March 3, that when she had got "very desperate" for the toilet Matthews had given her a bucket, then gone into the bathroom to dispose of it."


Dispose of it down a toilet that wasn't working? If I were police I'd want to see that bucket.
 
  • #559
"Shauna told police, in the interview on March 3, that when she had got "very desperate" for the toilet Matthews had given her a bucket, then gone into the bathroom to dispose of it."

So if he could dispose of it in the bathroom, presumably via the toilet .......... why couldn't she simply use the toilet? The smell of bleach and drain cleaner isn't that dangerous anyway, not just for the minute it would take to go to the loo. Why wouldn't you insist that you could just open a window ...... or use one of the many masks they seem to own, to breathe through.

I'm still don't understand why she didn't just insist on getting the council to do the repair (if she really believed the toilet was broken) as it is in the rules of her lease. No way would I be using a bucket for 2 - 3 days when there was a free repair service available. Plus with her being pregnant, she'd be needing to use the toilet a lot more than usual. Does that mean she didn't wash either herself or their child for 2 - 3 days?

Besides, I thought it was "her" house, so none of his business doing the repairs anyway.
 
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ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial · 47s47 seconds ago
SH didn't, in hindsight, think the noise of the saw sounded like it was 'cutting metal', she tells police #beckywatts
 
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