Found Deceased UK - Sarah Everard, 33, London - Clapham Common area, 3 March 2021 *Arrests* #14

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  • #761
I feel sorry for his wife, 15 years is a long time to be married to someone she thought she knew. I wonder were there any signs? Usually men like this are like two different people around their family and then in public. He could have been a very caring and devoted husband and dad which makes it all the more sad
 
  • #762
bought tarpaulin and a bungee cargo net and visited her body in the days after her murder... chilling

But in reply to a poster earlier on the page I think this indicates it was likely his first time of killing somebody-for a cop he seems incredibly reckless & unaware of CCTV & using his own phone which was on & pinging where he was.
 
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  • #765
All we need to know now is how he got her into the car-did he just grab her, or did he use his police ID to coax her in under some pretence of her being wanted?
 
  • #766
Nothing other than a whole life tariff for this utter ***

Doubt it, but the chances of him walking out alive seeing as he is already nearly 50 are pretty much zero.
 
  • #767
Obviously WC made lots of mistakes - as usual for a likely first time killer - despite his planning, but I wonder if his main mistake was not anticipating that Sarah would be caught on CCTV so often?

He would have known his own car would be caught on CCTV, but there would be nothing to link him to the crime, even when police got totally granular in terms of clearing every license plate. Maybe he had an explanation for the car rental prepared?

The idea may have been snatch her quickly off the street, with no one knowing where she went missing from.

But he didn't realise police would be able to trace her route so exactly - and even get a photo of them together
 
  • #768
Here is The Times story in full
How Wayne Couzens lied to cover up plans to kill in days before abduction of Sarah Everard | News | The Times

Three days earlier Couzens, a married father of two who lived in Deal, Kent, had hired the car online and used Amazon to purchase a carpet protector to cover up any forensic evidence in the vehicle.

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Couzens did not know Everard, a 33-year-old marketing manager, and police believe he was trawling for a victim when he spotted her a few minutes later on the A205 south circular, a busy road and popular pedestrian route between Clapham and Brixton. It was the height of the coronavirus lockdown, and police were questioning people who were out.

Only Couzens knows whether he used an excuse to get Everard into his car, or whether he forced her inside. However, police sources suspect he initially showed his warrant card to give the false impression he could be trusted. It took three minutes to execute his plan.

A bus camera image at 9.35pm shows the pair standing beside the Astra. At 9.38pm, when another bus drove past, the figures had disappeared into the car, and the front and passenger doors were open.

A father and son who were camping in the woods during that weekend saw Couzens with an axe and the officer told them he was chopping wood for a fire. Couzens burnt Everard’s body among piles of dumped rubbish at the entrance to the woodland in Hothfield, Kent.

His efforts to get rid of DNA traces and his connection to the crime were thwarted when detectives, having linked Couzens to the hire car, used his phone’s cell site analysis to trace him to the crime scene. Everard’s body was found there in a large green rubble bag, deposited in a stream.

After Couzens’s identity was uncovered the Met carried out a vast scoping inquiry to determine whether he had been responsible for any other unsolved crimes or internal misconduct. The force has not disclosed its outcomes.

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  • #769
This coward won’t be able to cope.
 
  • #770
Obviously WC made lots of mistakes - as usual for a likely first time killer - despite his planning, but I wonder if his main mistake was not anticipating that Sarah would be caught on CCTV so often?

He would have known his own car would be caught on CCTV, but there would be nothing to link him to the crime, even when police got totally granular in terms of clearing every license plate. Maybe he had an explanation for the car rental prepared?

The idea may have been snatch her quickly off the street, with no one knowing where she went missing from.

But he didn't realise police would be able to trace her route so exactly - and even get a photo of them together

He clearly hadn't even bothered finding out bus times either.
 
  • #771
Just no words for how much of a evil twat this guy is. Just a innocent woman walking home and doing no harm to anybody and he completely destroyed her life and the family’s in a matter of minutes.
 
  • #772
Here is The Times story in full
How Wayne Couzens lied to cover up plans to kill in days before abduction of Sarah Everard | News | The Times

Three days earlier Couzens, a married father of two who lived in Deal, Kent, had hired the car online and used Amazon to purchase a carpet protector to cover up any forensic evidence in the vehicle.

475be36d8981a7d0fc0fecad1534c31c.png



Couzens did not know Everard, a 33-year-old marketing manager, and police believe he was trawling for a victim when he spotted her a few minutes later on the A205 south circular, a busy road and popular pedestrian route between Clapham and Brixton. It was the height of the coronavirus lockdown, and police were questioning people who were out.

Only Couzens knows whether he used an excuse to get Everard into his car, or whether he forced her inside. However, police sources suspect he initially showed his warrant card to give the false impression he could be trusted. It took three minutes to execute his plan.

A bus camera image at 9.35pm shows the pair standing beside the Astra. At 9.38pm, when another bus drove past, the figures had disappeared into the car, and the front and passenger doors were open.

A father and son who were camping in the woods during that weekend saw Couzens with an axe and the officer told them he was chopping wood for a fire. Couzens burnt Everard’s body among piles of dumped rubbish at the entrance to the woodland in Hothfield, Kent.

His efforts to get rid of DNA traces and his connection to the crime were thwarted when detectives, having linked Couzens to the hire car, used his phone’s cell site analysis to trace him to the crime scene. Everard’s body was found there in a large green rubble bag, deposited in a stream.

After Couzens’s identity was uncovered the Met carried out a vast scoping inquiry to determine whether he had been responsible for any other unsolved crimes or internal misconduct. The force has not disclosed its outcomes.

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Detectives later established that Couzens and his wife purchased a nearby plot of woodland in 2019, and had used the area to scatter the ashes of relatives.


"Detectives later established that Couzens and his wife purchased a nearby plot of woodland in 2019, and had used the area to scatter the ashes of relatives."

Does anyone else get a gut feeling he was planning things back then? Seems a strange thing to do. JMO MOO
 
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  • #773
This coward won’t be able to cope.
I'm not so sure. He may have received 'help' to admit his crimes. He seems to have made some progress - but then again, we are not aware whether he has attempted to self harm again.
 
  • #774
Detectives later established that Couzens and his wife purchased a nearby plot of woodland in 2019, and had used the area to scatter the ashes of relatives.


"Detectives later established that Couzens and his wife purchased a nearby plot of woodland in 2019, and had used the area to scatter the ashes of relatives."

Does anyone else get a gut feeling he was planning things back then? Seems a strange thing to do. JMO MOO
It does say that there was a make shift cross and human ashes there. I suspect it was a way that his wife could feel nearer to relatives that have passed? I know it sounds strange, but in my own example, my dads ashes are both in the UK and Mexico!
 
  • #775
Here is The Times story in full
How Wayne Couzens lied to cover up plans to kill in days before abduction of Sarah Everard | News | The Times

Three days earlier Couzens, a married father of two who lived in Deal, Kent, had hired the car online and used Amazon to purchase a carpet protector to cover up any forensic evidence in the vehicle.

475be36d8981a7d0fc0fecad1534c31c.png



Couzens did not know Everard, a 33-year-old marketing manager, and police believe he was trawling for a victim when he spotted her a few minutes later on the A205 south circular, a busy road and popular pedestrian route between Clapham and Brixton. It was the height of the coronavirus lockdown, and police were questioning people who were out.

Only Couzens knows whether he used an excuse to get Everard into his car, or whether he forced her inside. However, police sources suspect he initially showed his warrant card to give the false impression he could be trusted. It took three minutes to execute his plan.

A bus camera image at 9.35pm shows the pair standing beside the Astra. At 9.38pm, when another bus drove past, the figures had disappeared into the car, and the front and passenger doors were open.

A father and son who were camping in the woods during that weekend saw Couzens with an axe and the officer told them he was chopping wood for a fire. Couzens burnt Everard’s body among piles of dumped rubbish at the entrance to the woodland in Hothfield, Kent.

His efforts to get rid of DNA traces and his connection to the crime were thwarted when detectives, having linked Couzens to the hire car, used his phone’s cell site analysis to trace him to the crime scene. Everard’s body was found there in a large green rubble bag, deposited in a stream.

After Couzens’s identity was uncovered the Met carried out a vast scoping inquiry to determine whether he had been responsible for any other unsolved crimes or internal misconduct. The force has not disclosed its outcomes.

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Wow, amazing detective work by the Met and the Specialist Crime Unit. He didn't make it as difficult for them as he could have, with what seems like a deluge of small mistakes, but the speed with which they joined the dots is very impressive imo.
 
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  • #776
Fiona Hamilton (@Fhamiltontimes) Tweeted:
He claimed he had given her alive and well to a gang of eastern Europeans to cover his debt for using prostitutes.
https://twitter.com/Fhamiltontimes/status/1413433912504770560?s=20
What??? I have no words:( I would like to see the officers' faces when he was spouting this nonsense. I wouldnt be able to keep my face straight but they had to remain poker faced. I mean it is a level of a 5 year old trying to lie himself out of trouble. What a monster!!! RIP sweet Sarah - at least you are now free of the torment this beast put You through :(
 
  • #777
Detectives later established that Couzens and his wife purchased a nearby plot of woodland in 2019, and had used the area to scatter the ashes of relatives.


"Detectives later established that Couzens and his wife purchased a nearby plot of woodland in 2019, and had used the area to scatter the ashes of relatives."

Does anyone else get a gut feeling he was planning things back then? Seems a strange thing to do. JMO MOO

I think so too. Maybe he suggested buying it for the ashes to his wife as a way of it not seeming suspicious.
I think he planned to kill more. I'm honestly surprised if Sarah is his first victim.
 
  • #778
From the crime editor at The Times:

This is not the full story on Wayne Couzens. Met police face serious questions re vetting + whether he could have been stopped over earlier, low level crimes. They’ve refused to comment so far citing contempt risk, but that’s gone now. Will we have transparency + accountability?
https://twitter.com/Fhamiltontimes/status/1413443809115983873
 
  • #779
I think so too. Maybe he suggested buying it for the ashes to his wife as a way of it not seeming suspicious.
I think he planned to kill more. I'm honestly surprised if Sarah is his first victim.

The only argument against more victims is I would have expected him to dispose of them in the same location,unless of course it was before the date he bought the land.
I can imagine him killing or physically attacking a prostitute .
 
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