UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[WestLondoner]

So are we saying this second sighting by C's father was around 2-2:45pm?

We don't know, but if it was then it tends to substantiate the BW sighting - similar area and perhaps also similar time.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

We don't know, but if it was then it tends to substantiate the BW sighting - similar area and perhaps also similar time.

So close to post or pre visit to basement we have evidence of some escalation perhaps? The argument in Stevenage etc...and abduction around then perhaps?

 

[RichardKimble]

One observation on the suited man, no one ever described him as wearing gloves, he must have been fingerprint savvy to have worn them in the car or meticulously wiped it down does this point to JC?

 

[kes1972]

One observation on the suited man, no one ever described him as wearing gloves, he must have been fingerprint savvy to have worn them in the car or meticulously wiped it down does this point to JC?

A question, if this suited man was in sl fiesta, then he was the passenger who later locked passenger door, would this be so it is assumed sl drove the fiesta alone? If so then would that indicate that person knew sl well and any fingerprints in the car would be expected to be found and treated as normal. If so that leaves 3 people to my reckoning. We know jc would not be clever enough to remove fingerprints from the car and if he was wouldnt forensics know certain parts of the car had been “wiped clean” of prints?

 

[Konstantin]

The BMW struggling couple, witness forward in 2000, (but said earlier in 1986 too) said he was confused at first as the woman he saw was blonde. Then we have AS P.76 “ND & ND - two men, same initials - each added a point that gave their evidence greater plausibility. The girl they had seen, they told the police had lighter hair than the pictures of SL showed”.

Could it be, in reality, her hair looked as attached? IME men not great at noticing subtlety in blonde hair colouring - Marilyn Monroe a ‘blonde’ Lol

If we’re being pedantic about it no sun to enhance either, not a sunny day!

Is her photo where she's sitting on the bloke's lap taken after she had her hair done?

It wasn't a sunny day and it was quite cold for the time of year. Some drizzle. You might say she's blonde or fair haired in the photo on the AS book cover but not very blonde. Very blonde is the ABBA woman - SL didn't have it bleached did she? If highlights then maybe that looked lighter.

But human memory is very poor.

 

[lee sumner]

A couple of O[rdinary] Levels was fairly respectable for that era. From 1944 to 1972 the school leaving age was 15. It's raising to 16 in 1972 was not universally popular, especially amongst some of the traditional working class. Since exams were taken at 16 it meant that before 1972 many working class teenagers left school with no qualifications at all. Once they were required to stay in school until 16 and could take leaving exams, they were split into two streams - the more able took O Levels and the less able or academic took CSEs (Certificates of Secondary Education) or some commercial / vocational qualifications such as Pitman shorthand and typing.

iam working class. did not take any exams because i played truant all the time. education is important, i just did not realise this at the time. i was very immature.

 

[lee sumner]

But perps do start off being ruthlessly methodical and more reckless as they get more confident with time as per jc

it should be the other way round.