UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

  • #21
Maybe it was just too close to home for her, or perhaps the police asked her after interview not to comment, or maybe she was asked by the Lamplugh foundation not to comment.

By the time she was in the public eye, PS was working in an unusual and unbritish occupation. Can you imagine the tabloid headlines if she had made an appeal for Suzy?
when i read AS book on the case. i knew straight away who he was talkng about. i have seen PSS on many TV shows over the years. maybe she was told never to discuss the case with anyone, not even the press. which does seem odd.
 
  • #22
I'd be surprised. Even if she were mid-20s at the time she'd be mid-60s now, so likely retired. Also, IIRC she may have been struck off as a solicitor because personal integrity. An army officer who committed adultery would be cashiered; maybe this happens to lawyers too.
 
  • #23
I'd be surprised. Even if she were mid-20s at the time she'd be mid-60s now, so likely retired. Also, IIRC she may have been struck off as a solicitor because personal integrity. An army officer who committed adultery would be cashiered; maybe this happens to lawyers too.
Yes I think she was struck off, or forced to resign. There's a couple of pictures online of her at about the time she was involved with JC. She's remarried iirc.
 
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She reminds me a bit of SJL in that photo, looks-wise. Similar hair, similar face shape.
And Shirley Banks as well.

It's partly the haircut, but only partly. Perhaps JC had a type.
 
  • #27

She became Annabel Dixey.

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Shirley Banks:

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  • #28
Have I read somewhere that she was a sex therapist or something like that? Yes completely understand- they would have had a field day!

see excerpt below from the following article - how I would love to read that news of the world piece today!
Susannah Clapp · Ventures

Andrew Stephen’s book has added to this celebrity. So have the newspaper stories about his story. For three long weeks the Observer carried huge chunks of this tiny book. Their estimate of the story which was most likely to attract readers was the same as that of the News of the World, who shortly before Andrew Stephen’s book was published put a picture of Susannah Lamplugh on the cover of its colour-supplement. This showed her sitting on a bunk smoking, in a little silky garment. Alongside large amounts of tanned thigh was the legend: ‘REVEALED! SUZY LAMPLUGH’S SECRET LOVER.’ Inside, a gruellingly banal article described a (non-secret) affair with a hairdresser on the QE2. ‘Right from the start there was something between them, Jon remembers. “When I first saw Suzy I thought, ‘Wow, who is she?’ ” ’ Other papers, excited by the news that the Lamplugh parents had turned against the book, expressed their excitement in ways peculiar to themselves. The People said Stephen credited Susannah with fifty lovers: he doesn’t. The Times said the Lamplugh family had left home while the book was being publicised and published: they were back for publication date. The Guardian denounced the ‘public voyeurism that provokes publication’ of such an ‘archetypal ghoul’s story’ – though it was the Lamplughs, not a ravening mob, who had approached the publishers with the idea for this book, and the publishers were free to say no. Andrew Stephen had one defender in Anita Brookner – but the effectiveness of her attack on his attackers was diminished by its appearing in the Observer while that paper was ending its serialisation of the book. He also mounted his own defence, or attack.
i have read it. JH was her lover after they worked on the QE2. he was not her secret lover. JH went with SL to meet her parents after they finished working on the QE2, so i dont know why he says he was her secret lover.
 
  • #29
It was Wardo Avenue written in the diary. You can see the image if you search online for Suzy Lamplugh diary.

There was another entry for a 6pm appointment, plus something else crossed out at the top of the page.
43 waldermar. 6PM appointment with joanna.
 
  • #30
" It is food for thought. The husband (who is only mentioned once in AS as TSS and I cannot find any reference to online nor PSS ) was apparently involved in property development.

The fact that the wife PSS showed up at ES avenue in a dramatic fashion saying they were going to have lunch on Monday 28th and she felt so bad about not being able to make it - I mean really? (according to AS). Now I think about that it seems a bit suss. but JMO."

Odd too that DV does not mention the couple at all in Finding Suzy. Perhaps they're litigious, and have protected themselves. I believe the husband is deceased, but she's pretty well-known. I don't think she's ever spoken about her relationship with Sjl, despite them seemingly having been besties until a couple months before Skl's disappearance.

It may be something, it may be nothing. Weird though.
DV did not mention the couple because it does not fit his theory. i dont understand why people think he is a good investigator.
 
  • #31
DV did not mention the couple because it does not fit his theory. i dont understand why people think he is a good investigator.
I agree the couple don't fit his theory. But there are other people who don't fit his theory either - AL for example - but it doesn't stop DV including him and making something of a point out of his reaction to being questioned.

I've never really been of the opinion that the couple were involved in SJLs disappearance; moreso that, if nothing else, their inclusion would simply add some colour to his book!
For me, he DOES lean into the dramatic, which is perhaps why I find the book pretty readable; to me it is more like a novel than an investigative analysis however.
 
  • #32
DV did not mention the couple because it does not fit his theory. i dont understand why people think he is a good investigator.
When he was interviewed on YouTube, one of the live questions put to him was about this couple and he instantly closed the question off and said he wasn't going to talk about them. He's been warned off, I'd say.
 
  • #33
When he was interviewed on YouTube, one of the live questions put to him was about this couple and he instantly closed the question off and said he wasn't going to talk about them. He's been warned off, I'd say.
Is that video still available? I can't seem to find it anywhere...
 
  • #34
It doesn't seem to be. It came out within about a year of the book and was with someone who appeared to be another ex-plod, but I forget the channel.

There's probably a link to it in the threads from back then....
 
  • #35
Someone mentioned above that maybe TS / PSS are litigious. One or other of them is.

PSS divorced TS not long after the SJL and bankruptcy episodes and has given press interviews where she describes living on the breadline with 2 kids and no help from TS whom she describes IIRC as intimidating, possibly violent. The press interviews related to her second career as a sex expert, in which capacity she's been a talking head on Big Brother and has written a number of guides on how to do sex. These include titles such as Sizzling Sex: The Sex Doctor's 250 Hottest-Techniques, Sinful Sex: The Uninhibited Guide To Erotic Pleasure, Sex Academy: Essential Lessons in Seduction and Spectacular Sex, Steamy Sex: The Sex Doctor's Guide To Keeping It Hot, Fabulous Foreplay: The Sex Doctor's Guide To Teasing and Pleasing Your Lover, Naughty Tricks and Sexy Tips: A Couple's Guide To Uninhibited Erotic Pleasure, and Make Love All Night and Talk to Him in the Morning: Bite-Size Tips for Sex and Relationships. She's clearly not a shy person, then, but she has no Wikipedia page. A few years ago a now-banned member contacted her through either X or LinkedIn and asked her what her take on SJL was. She replied that SJL was a dear friend whom she missed terribly but would have nothing else to say.

TS got out of bankruptcy and made some more money, but I am not sure where or how. He has no online profile.

DV posted a Twitter update once from Elizabeth Street, the road in Belgravia TS/PSS lived in. Make of that what you will. I'd be amazed if he had made no attempt to contact them and PSS would be very easy to reach, yet neither of them has been so much as mentioned in anything written or screened about the case since AS' book came out.
 
  • #36
I jus checked - the discussion of the DV YouTube interview is back at the start of thread #2, Dec 2021. There's a link to it at the bottom of page #1 but the video is now unavailable / private.
 
  • #37
I jus checked - the discussion of the DV YouTube interview is back at the start of thread #2, Dec 2021. There's a link to it at the bottom of page #1 but the video is now unavailable / private.
Thank you so much for finding it! I've seen it once, probably around the same time as the book came out. Shame it seems to be no longer available...
 
  • #38
Has anyone had any luck getting hold of these Anita Brookner papers? They were her notes on AS' book, as I recall, and she concluded the personal effects were lost there on the Sunday, not the Friday?
 
  • #39
Has anyone had any luck getting hold of these Anita Brookner papers? They were her notes on AS' book, as I recall, and she concluded the personal effects were lost there on the Sunday, not the Friday?

No. I remember searching for them, but whatever she wrote, they were not publicly available. I've read a few of her novels -- she is a very thoughtful and intelligent novelist whose main career was as a university professor who lectured on art. So not a crime investigator but someone intelligent who was used to research. I don't know if she just got the wrong end of the stick by saying Sunday not Friday or she had read some other material pointing to that.

It would make more sense to be Sunday, as otherwise SJL would have done without her diary and chequebook for the whole weekend without apparently noting that to any of her mates. She seemed very keen to get it back, so she must have realised it had gone missing from her bag. You'd tihnk she would have tried to use the diary at some point that weekend and noticed, unless of course she just thought she had forgotten it at home when she went to the coast?
 
  • #40
Has anyone had any luck getting hold of these Anita Brookner papers? They were her notes on AS' book, as I recall, and she concluded the personal effects were lost there on the Sunday, not the Friday?
Yes I have a copy of them but the handwriting is so hard to read I am really struggling.

you can email the Harry Ransom centre at [email protected] and they are in the the link Anita Brookner: An Inventory of Her Notebooks at the Harry Ransom Center
Anita Brookner Series 1 Notebooks 1986-1994 - Fraud 1992The Suzy Lamplugh Story (1988) by Andrew StephenBox 1 Folder 7

I emailed them to ask what to do first and they were most helpful. You have to create a free research account, then they can actually send you up to100 pages free (scans) (the notes run to 6 pages)

I do not think I can share them without filling out some declaration of some sort , I will go back and have a look.

It only took a day or so for them to email them to me. I was so excited and am frustrated I cannot get past the first paragraph!

If someone else wants to get in touch with them and obtain them and try to decipher them that would be great! In the meantime I will keep trying :)
 

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