UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[WestLondoner]

I often think she is just in plain sight all these years. Buried behind some wall or cellar/ cupboard thing in a house in Fulham. God forbid its actually 37SR .

I think Suzy was killed by someone she knew, most probably an unwanted admirer, who got firmly rejected that day and did not take it well. Where she is? Not in Fulham, I think.

Tend to agree. I doubt she is in plain sight. If you look at what we know then she was either at 37SR and / or she was at 123SR, and then she disappeared, that afternoon. This points very strongly to her being taken inside some premises close at hand and never leaving.

1 DV hypothesises a pub.

2 JC was extensively informed on by the red Sierra's owner, his mate at the hostel, who had a council flat on the corner of Sun and Star Road, seven minutes' walk north from 37SR, in a block that has attached garages.

3 JC worked at Superhire, which had a warehouse in the area (still does, tho not on the 1986 site), likely big enough to drive into. They lent theatrical and movie props - presumably in big packing cases. Did he keep a key?

4 The perp could have rented a property nearby and got SJL to go inside on the basis that he was the owner and thinking of flogging it.

In case 1, and perhaps case 4, SJL never left (if case 4 entailed a ground-floor flat in a typical Fulham terrace, under the floorboards there would be a crawlspace and the dirt the house stands on; easy enough to dig a shallow grave or simply hide a body). I don't buy 1 and in case 4 she'll never be found, unless the street is demolished or someone tries to build a basement.

In cases 2 and 3 the premises are a place to contain or kill her, then put her into a car boot unobserved. If that happened, she could be anywhere.

 

[dotr]

Oct 6 2025 rbbm

New map shows thousands of stalking and harassment cases in London last year

Official Met Police figures show the number has gone down

www.mylondon.news

'The Met Police recorded thousands of stalking and harassment offences across London last year, recent figures show. However, the number of recorded offences has declined compared with the previous year. It comes as the number of offences also declined across England and Wales, while continuing to disproportionately impact women.'

''The Suzy Lamplugh Trust, a stalking and personal safety charity, warned stalking is an "underreported and therefore under documented crime", and called on the Government to publish its new Violence Against Women and Girls strategy and provide more funding towards specialist support services.''

 

[Hexe]

It's all highly circumstantial, of course. But it is consistent with Cannan being angry at getting blown out by SJL, killing SC in a rage and then dumping her stuff out of a car window.

Strangulation with minimal force and without beating the victim does not look like something furious Cannan would do. This guy was brutal.

 

[tes1984]

Strangulation with minimal force and without beating the victim does not look like something furious Cannan would do. This guy was brutal.

He had previous for strangling one of his ex girlfriends until she lost consciousness.

 

[WestLondoner]

I'm not sure we know enough to be sure about this. He raped two women whom he subdued with threats, but with no actual violence (other than the rapes themselves, obviously). He murdered SB, but that's the only one we know he did. So I am not sure one can generalise about what he usually did or did not do. He's plausible for SC given his proclivities and whereabouts that day, and that's about as far as one can go I think.

 

[tes1984]

I'm not sure we know enough to be sure about this. He raped two women whom he subdued with threats, but with no actual violence (other than the rapes themselves, obviously). He murdered SB, but that's the only one we know he did. So I am not sure one can generalise about what he usually did or did not do. He's plausible for SC given his proclivities and whereabouts that day, and that's about as far as one can go I think.

I think this is a funny take on things. His violence when challenged was off the scale.

 

[tes1984]

I still cannot quite wrap my head around how (and why ) JC would murder SJL only 3 days after being released from prison. Totally nuts (but then again I guess he was).

He was in a hostel and free to do pretty much what he wanted six months before Suzy disappeared.

 

[WestLondoner]

I think this is a funny take on things. His violence when challenged was off the scale.

In which instances? He had been carrying out assaults since the age of about 15 but other than against his wife / partner I don't recall - offhand - explosions of violence (although given who we're talking about you'd not be surprised, obvs).

In the Reading and Solihull rapes and the attempted Holman rape his MO was to force his way into a car or shop and try to terrify his victim with a weapon. There was a report of someone hearing, from her car a violent assault near a road in Bristol, but IIRC something about this did not fit the circumstances of SB's murder.

 

[lee sumner]

I still cannot quite wrap my head around how (and why ) JC would murder SJL only 3 days after being released from prison. Totally nuts (but then again I guess he was).

i thought the same. was JC really that stupid.

 

[lee sumner]

What grounds exactly? Sandra was found fully dressed, there was no evidence she was raped or beaten and the murderer used minimal force required to strangle her. That's very much unlike Cannan who was primarily a rapist, with penchant for brutal violence. He bludgeoned Shirley Banks to death with a stone. Also, he was checked by the police as a potential suspect in this case and no ties were found.

i believe they have a fingerprint in the SC case. JC has been ruled out. he did not kill sandra court.

 

[lee sumner]

Strangulation with minimal force and without beating the victim does not look like something furious Cannan would do. This guy was brutal.

the strangulation was enough to kill poor sandra, yet they say it was minimal force. how patronising.

 

[lee sumner]

I am no statistician and I also do not know the crime stats in the UK . But pretty much- overall statistically - alot of crimes of this nature are committed by someone the person knew. You do not just disappear off the street in the majority of cases . Having said that there is not alot of information that I can find about how SB was actually abducted ( and the lead up to that - did he know her? did he send her flowers and stuff? or did he just see her at Debenhams and go - oh right she is the one tonight ? I guess that is totally possible.

There is evidence SJL knew TS. There is really no evidence that she had any involvement with JC at all.

Have a look at this statement (thanks Steve H) . Draw any comparisons? If SJL was having an affair with him (herself being highly sexual by all accounts we have read - this could (could) be a betrayal by a friend with her husband??

I went through a painful split from my first husband and as I licked my wounds, having divorced on the grounds of his unreasonable behaviour, I thought, “I’m not being treated badly by another man again"....
It was not a decision I came to lightly, especially as I am a highly sexed woman who loves passion and intimacy.

Why would PSS hide it all these years if she knew or had any inkling that he had anything to do with it? No disrespect to her in any way if she has had to raise two kids on her own with a bankrupt philandering husband. I would have kicked him to the curb as well.
It smacks of him being a shady character all around and I can only guess she does not want to be implicated in a crime she did not commit but would likely be associated with. It makes you wonder if (as per the AS book she showed up at East Sheen Av on I think the Tuesday after SJL disappeared - if this was fake because she knew something or was trying to find something out from the family)

Its a thought dear fellow SJL peeps!

PSS has never done one media interview in nearly 4 decades, which is strange if she was so close to her.

 

[RichardKimble]

the strangulation was enough to kill poor sandra, yet they say it was minimal force. how patronising.

Isn't it to do with the damage to the hyoid or similar named bone ?

 

[Hexe]

the strangulation was enough to kill poor sandra, yet they say it was minimal force. how patronising.

It's not patronising. The minimal force in question is the minimal force required to strangle the victim to death.