UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[Lady Stoddart-West]

SL arranged to pick up her missing items at 6pm, so this means she was not in a rush to get her items back. if she was she would have arranged to get them ASAP. this simple arrangement SL made gets overlooked in my opinion.

The data on a 6pm pick up came from pub & poss temp publican’s wife. Poss lost in translation & she was never late for apts even by 5 mins, so seems odd she’d have volunteered 6pm as pick up . It stands to reason she’d want her diary/contacts asap IMO or she’d have not been so dedicated/persistent about it to temp landlord. His recount to DV showed her particular worry about the diary.

 

[lee sumner]

My view is he stepped up as a defender of her honour fast & ‘official boyfriend’ for the press - hence the glossing of problematic Sunday night etc. I think he knew she didn’t see him as love of life & saw & accepted writing on wall. SL stayed on good terms with all exes to date & would have done so with him too, eventually.

LG might have seen dating SL as a summer fling, and was not concerned about getting ditched. why does everyone assume LG was in love with SL.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

LG might have seen dating SL as a summer fling, and was not concerned about getting ditched. why does everyone assume LG was in love with SL.

LG (?) I am talking about AL - ah, think we mean same. They were together for a year or so, went to Paris, skiing etc, horse trials, balls so on paper at least he/they were serious. He knew her family & stepped up as spokesperson almost immediately for family. One of earliest interviews from him. They were friends before lovers & he was very loyal.

His turning up on the beach in Worthing on Sunday & leaving her alone to leave later with friends was a bit odd & suggests tension perhaps. Especially odd as he’d not been her plus one at 21st so had travelled presumably from London to Worthing only to turn around & go home again alone.

 

[lee sumner]

after her 6pm appointment with joanna to view waldermar rd. she picks up her lost items on the way home.

 

[lee sumner]

The data on a 6pm pick up came from pub & poss temp publican’s wife. Poss lost in translation & she was never late for apts even by 5 mins, so seems odd she’d have volunteered 6pm as pick up . It stands to reason she’d want her diary/contacts asap IMO or she’d have not been so dedicated/persistent about it to temp landlord. His recount to DV showed her particular worry about the diary.

you listen to what DV says thinking its the truth, but he does not know what he is talking about. DV theory is utter madness.

 

[lee sumner]

LG (?) I am talking about AL her ‘official’ boyfriend.

sorry i meant AL.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

you listen to what DV says thinking its the truth, but he does not know what he is talking about. DV theory is utter madness.

Well, I am not looking at DV in isolation & we can agree he interviewed CV at least - this is very detailed in his book . The police agree with a great deal of what DV has said…if not the ‘cellar’ theory…

AS gives details re: 6pm apt etc.

It’s my view that SL did invent ‘Kipper’ to get out at lunchtime to get her things in part & the final call she took ‘half sitting, half standing’ & perhaps the loss of expected commission NH took, influenced what happened next & fateful decisions made.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

after her 6pm appointment with joanna to view waldermar rd. she picks up her lost items on the way home.

The pub temp landlady said she’d said 6pm but this clashed with her 6pm apt & she’d not just said a generic ‘after work’ so feels unlikely she’d say that she’d be there very specifically at 6pm - as was reported. This might be splitting hairs, but it’s one of a few anomalies around the POW that day.

She may not have been easily able to say heading out to collect things asap as short staffed etc even if reality.

 

[Konstantin]

The pub temp landlady said she’d said 6pm but this clashed with her 6pm apt & she’d not just said a generic ‘after work’ so feels unlikely she’d say that she’d be there very specifically at 6pm - as was reported. This might be splitting hairs, but it’s one of a few anomalies around the POW that day.

She may not have been easily able to say heading out to collect things asap as short staffed etc even if reality.

She might have needed her diary ASAP to get numbers she needed to call that day - for social reasons maybe but also business contacts perhaps if she was involved in a deal. Though unclear if she could make personal calls from her work landline.

The importance of the diary - the equivalent to a smartphone really - to her life is why I think if she'd lost it on the Friday, the people she was around all that weekend would have heard about it. Did she really not call anyone that weekend? Surely she'd have mentioned it to her mum. She'd have been anxious about it. Wondering where she left it. Calling Mossops. The pub if they really went there which AL later denied. Calling AL asking if he'd picked it up. He'd have known about it surely as she was with him on the Friday.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

She might have needed her diary ASAP to get numbers she needed to call that day - for social reasons maybe but also business contacts perhaps if she was involved in a deal. Though unclear if she could make personal calls from her work landline.

The importance of the diary - the equivalent to a smartphone really - to her life is why I think if she'd lost it on the Friday, the people she was around all that weekend would have heard about it. Did she really not call anyone that weekend? Surely she'd have mentioned it to her mum. She'd have been anxious about it. Wondering where she left it. Calling Mossops. The pub if they really went there which AL later denied. Calling AL asking if he'd picked it up. He'd have known about it surely as she was with him on the Friday.

Absolutely. AL in a doc does say she was upset re: loss of possessions on Fri eve. Evidence really points to the loss happening on Sun as stated upthread & reasons for swapping of evenings.

 

[Lady Stoddart-West]

She might have needed her diary ASAP to get numbers she needed to call that day - for social reasons maybe but also business contacts perhaps if she was involved in a deal. Though unclear if she could make personal calls from her work landline.

The importance of the diary - the equivalent to a smartphone really - to her life is why I think if she'd lost it on the Friday, the people she was around all that weekend would have heard about it. Did she really not call anyone that weekend? Surely she'd have mentioned it to her mum. She'd have been anxious about it. Wondering where she left it. Calling Mossops. The pub if they really went there which AL later denied. Calling AL asking if he'd picked it up. He'd have known about it surely as she was with him on the Friday.

The police also presumably know or knew whether, as was & is rumoured, the diary had ‘salacious’ content.

IF it did, it surely means SL will have wanted to get this hot potato as SOON as she knew KH had it! As DV recounts - SL via KH/CV in his book “have you got my diary? Have you got my diary? You HAVE got my diary haven’t you?”

She was apparently very concerned.